[tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

[Mattia]

It was not addressed to you but to the thread in general, sorry if I've
misquoted.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Err...  It was pretty embarrassing and strange...  :-/
>
> Sorry for asking, Mattia...  Do you know that I hate FBI with all my forces
> or not?  O.o
>
> Please, you can say everything about me, but do *NOT* say that I support
> FBI in any sense.  It is really, really offensive for me.
>
> I hate governments, I admiss, but I never said I am an anarchist and my
> work is using laws...  :P
>
> On Jun 7, 2016 5:45 PM, "Mattia" <sowdust at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anarchists, you say. Anarchy shall be possible when people are tough
> enough
> > to respond to violence, and kind enough not to make any violence that
> can't
> > be defended.
> >
> > What these "anarchists" are doing is to not be tough enough to face their
> > actions, and being so violent that the offended person will never be able
> > to defend himself.
> >
> > Utopia of anarchism is not a world with no laws. Is a world where rules
> are
> > naturally followed without being enforced.
> > And the right to defend oneself after accusations and have a fair trial
> is
> > a right that is enforced by law in most of those governments that you,
> > self-called-anarchists, think are so much better of.
> >
> > Was this FBI? Are these accusations real? (I have not seen any accusation
> > of RAPE, which is profoundly different than having a disturbing
> behaviour,
> > although many titles use that word).
> > It matters up to a certain point. Responses are what concerned me.
> >
> > People claiming "we don't need proofs, just one accusation of rape is
> > enough"... what world do you live in? There's something beyond your
> > computer screen and your world made of bits. And in that world, one, 100,
> > 10000 anonymous accusations are not enough to destroy a person.
> >
> > And if this were FBI - well you just made them the huge favour of proving
> > the necessity of their existance.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:08 PM, df. <df at riseup.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Cecilia Tanaka:
> > >
> > > > I received some cruel messages in different accounts.  I will stalk
> > > > my stalkers later, don't worry.  It is not about revenge, just
> > > > "educational purposes", I swear!  :)
> > >
> > > I am very sad to hear that Cecilia. Let "educational purposes" be
> karma.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Now I am more worried about Jake.  If the messages sent for me were
> > > > cruel, I can imagine the level of messages sent for Jake.
> > >
> > > I am sure there are too many to count.
> > >
> > > I guess for some people when they have no arguments they just resort
> > > to unfounded verbal attacks.
> > >
> > > Saludos cordiales,
> > >
> > > df.
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