[tor-talk] Porn make the world more free: Tor Porn Bundle?

[Chris Smart]

Usually the geekier lists don't go this far off-topic ...



At 04:14 AM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
>You dare to speak about the topic with your name attached. Respect 
>man.
>Blatantly spoken, blatantly answered.
>
>This a nice idea. I got few questions for you.
>
>How could porn banned people send money to porn industry when they 
>cant
>even reach porn websites without circumvention tool? Dont tell me 
>about
>btc. If they are too stupid to know about tor know how can they 
>learn to
>use btc anonymously.
>
>How does the circumvention stuff make a better world? People are 
>to coward
>to kick their government ass for their porn rights. Result they 
>can simply
>not wank off so easily. Whats the big deal?
>
>How can satisfying their wanking needs help them fighting for porn 
>rights?
>Let them suffer. Let them fight. Do not ease the suffering.
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > i've been at internet governance forum (in italy) yesterday and
> > starteddiscussing a topic with several internet freedom/policy 
> activists:
> >
> > "porn make the world more free"
> >
> > It seems a joke, but it maybe an important consideration.
> >
> > A teenager (12-18 yo) in 2012 use internet porn websites for 
> masturbation.
> > That's a real facts, i expect, almost everywhere.
> >
> > In places like Saudi, a 14th years old young have a strong need of
> > masturbate like in any other place in the world.
> > But he don't have access to internet porn with his broadband 
> internet
> > access.
> >
> > In the Saudi example there are already now people providing 
> paid (and
> > risky) access to porn for masturbation's needs:
> > http://arabnews.com/jailed-facilitating-porn-site-access
> > This as an example of a real need that stimulate people in finding
> > circumvention methods.
> >
> > So, when a teenager in Saudi need to masturbate he have to find 
> out a
> > censorship circumvention tool.
> >
> > From a marketing perspective this is a clearly definable "need" .
> >
> > Ok, how can we think to make out of it (masturbation and porn) 
> something
> > good for freedom of speech?
> >
> > Imho we may think to create something like "Tor Porn Bundle": A 
> version
> > of TBB specifically designed to provide easy access to Porn.
> > Then promote it trough custom targeted campaigns across all 
> Arab World
> > (and language/countries where internet porn is censored).
> >
> > Which would be the main result in mid-term?
> >
> > That most teenagers (and also non teenagers, but probably in 
> minor part)
> > in that closed-society will learn, understand and start using 
> censorship
> > circumvention tool for an important, basic need: Masturbate!
> >
> > We should not underestimate the relevance of this need because 
> it fit
> > along with the "Basic" human needs, like eating.
> > So the effort and perceived rewards that a person have working 
> on the
> > path to satisfy that need is very high.
> >
> > In that hypothetical Torn Porn Bundle, we may deliver a 
> pre-populated
> > in-language list of porn websites.
> > But also some "free" "in language" media website and other free 
> / non
> > censored information sources and social networking tools.
> >
> > That way, after masturbation, the user will be able to have a 
> clear and
> > simple path to start accessing the web in a free way.
> >
> > As a side node i would like to remind that the "porn industry" 
> is valued
> > billion of USD.
> > If porn industry would became partners of freedom of speech 
> players, it
> > could means a lot of money for investment in campaigning and 
> technology
> > development, because it would means opening new markets to them.
> > Opening a new market means having new consumer that means they 
> would be
> > able to calculate the economic ROI of an investment.
> >
> > * Porn supported the development of internet backbone
> > * Porn developed early internet multimedia streaming technologies
> > * Porn may make the world more free
> >
> > -naif
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