[tor-talk] Porn make the world more free: Tor Porn Bundle?

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> Fabio Pietrosanti (naif):
>> [...]
>> Imho we may think to create something like "Tor Porn Bundle": A version
>> of TBB specifically designed to provide easy access to Porn.
>
> Since the current TBB can display images I assume that watching videos
> is the goal of the Porn-TBB.
>
> There was the (unanswered?) question (on tor-talk) if not all users
> should consume their porn through Tor to avoid people sticking out,
> because they have to use Tor to access it or if this would be bad for
> the network.[1]
>
> I assume that the load (no pun intended) would lead to congestion which
> could hurt anonymity of other users. Well still better than
> bulk-downloading. I also assumed that if all Facebook users suddenly
> start using Tor to access Facebook the network would suffer from the
> amount of traffic. (I have not validated any of my assumptions)
>
>> Then promote it trough custom targeted campaigns across all Arab World
>> (and language/countries where internet porn is censored).
>> [...]
>
> Tor might be already very unwanted in the "Arab World" because it allows
> access to information that are also unwanted. Porn is one step further
> and might them try to ban or block Tor even harder. ("Protect our
> children from porn!")
>
>> We should not underestimate the relevance of this need because it fit
>> along with the "Basic" human needs, like eating.
>> So the effort and perceived rewards that a person have working on the
>> path to satisfy that need is very high.
>
> They probably have something called imagination which could serve to
> satisfy the need. Pictures (of naked ankles and naked angles[*]) should
> be in reach with the current TBB.
>
> (I'm not arguing against PTBB)
>
>> In that hypothetical Torn Porn Bundle, we may deliver a pre-populated
>> in-language list of porn websites.
>> But also some "free" "in language" media website and other free / non
>> censored information sources and social networking tools.
>
> Are there any websites distributing their porn via HTML5 video? (A,
> "Yes, there are!" would be enough, no links) Otherwise Flash will be
> used and if they use the Porn TBB to access other information
> anonymously Flash could shoot them in the foot.
>
> On Youtube you have to opt-in for HTML5-video. They deliver Flash by
> default. So I assume it's not wide-spread enough.
>
> Maybe convincing porn websites to distribute their content via HTML5 (if
> not already the case) would be helpful to this goal.
>
>> As a side node i would like to remind that the "porn industry" is valued
>> billion of USD.
>> If porn industry would became partners of freedom of speech players, it
>> could means a lot of money for investment in campaigning and technology
>> development, because it would means opening new markets to them.
>> Opening a new market means having new consumer that means they would be
>> able to calculate the economic ROI of an investment.
>>
>> * Porn supported the development of internet backbone
>> * Porn developed early internet multimedia streaming technologies
>> * Porn may make the world more free
>>
>
> Some exit nodes run by the "porn industry" would be nice.
>
>
> [1]
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2012-September/025538.html
> [*] To some both is equally bad from their religious point of view.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian (bastik_tor)
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