[Tor www-team] Hey, let's make Tor awesome!

Thu Feb 4 23:35:36 UTC 2016

Hey Isabela, I'm Liam!

I'm good for anytime.

On 2/4/2016 12:36 PM, Isabela wrote:
> Hi Jag! And everyone else :)
>
> First let me introduce myself - my name is Isabela and I am Project 
> Manager at Tor. I helped facilitate the discussions during the last 
> Dev Meeting in Berlin about redesigning the website:
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/Website/MainSiteRedesign
>
> Part of the reason this discussion haven't moved is my fault - I got 
> really busy with our first crowdfunding campaign (yay!) and only now I 
> can pick up this conversation again.
>
> Jag, I apologize for the lack of response to your email. Your comments 
> are right in line with what we are thinking here and is great to know 
> you are excited about this project! We do hope to count with the 
> community help on it.
>
> I want to schedule some time for us to chat on IRC so we can better 
> organize this effort. As everyone might imagine this is a big effort 
> where we will be touching a lot of content and things can get messy 
> pretty fast.
>
> I would like to coordinate this project using trac and irc, get 
> tickets going to follow up on tasks and also organize a periodic irc 
> meeting for us to check in.
>
> I thought of a set of tasks that will help us get started - all of 
> them are child tickets of #18243:
>
> 1. ticket #18244 - Map all content of torproject.org so we can 
> organize what stays, what goes to another sites (e.g. 
> dev.torproject.org) etc.
> 2. ticket #18245 - Help on getting different mocks of the site based 
> on Berlin's discussion - we want to think of different approaches 
> before we decide which one we will do
> 3. Update wiki, so its easier for people to understand this effort and 
> how they can help.
>
> As part of the discussion in Berlin we also decided on having a review 
> process, which we hope to scale to include localization review as 
> well. This process is described on 'How to contribute' part of the wiki:
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/Website#Howtocontribute
>
> We should discuss how to implement it, we could get help from our UX 
> team as well.
>
> So lets organize this irc meeting? I would love to hear your 
> suggestions as well. Let's meet and chat what else we should be doing 
> or what can be improved in this process for us to get this project done.
>
> Please help pick up a time to meet:
> http://doodle.com/poll/wfct3hx8hv566qi3
>
> I hope I am not dropping a bomb (!) with so much info, but I was eager 
> to get this going and as you can see I've been thinking about it.
>
> Lets schedule a chat next week!
>
> Cheers,
> Isabela
>
>
> On 12/16/2015 02:29 PM, Jag Talon wrote:
>> Would it be a good idea to try posting mockups on the wiki based on 
>> the brainstorming session to see what people like?
>>
>>
>> On December 13, 2015 at 12:27:20 PM, Jag Talon (jag at jagtalon.com 
>> <mailto:jag at jagtalon.com>) wrote:
>>
>>> It seems that there’s been some discussion about redesigning the 
>>> main website a little while back in 2015SummerDevMeeting 
>>> <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2015SummerDevMeeting> that 
>>> brainstorming sessions were made and mockups were posted in Trac 
>>> <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/Website/MainSiteRedesign>. That 
>>> got me pretty excited!
>>>
>>> However looking at the issues on the wiki, there doesn’t seem to be 
>>> anything related to the new redesign of the site. I think we should 
>>> start planning and making the redesign sooner rather than later—not 
>>> just for the sake of making it look pretty, but to communicate 
>>> better to people (as you all are very well aware of!):
>>>
>>> - *Simplifying for new users.* I agree with the mockupfor removing 
>>> the recent blog posts because the page seems like is trying to both 
>>> give old users updates and convince new users to use Tor which ends 
>>> up cluttering the page. Not having updates and keeping it simple on 
>>> the introductory page is a common aesthetic on modern product 
>>> websites <https://imgur.com/a/YWFZK>.
>>>
>>> An alternative to “User Stories” could be a bunch of quotes from 
>>> users such as Molly Crabapple which you guys have done wonderfully 
>>> on Twitter 
>>> <https://twitter.com/torproject/status/674682349771190272>. I think 
>>> this allows people to have more of an emotional connection with Tor. 
>>> We could probably even go as far as merging both “Use Stories” and 
>>> the “Why” sections into one section <https://imgur.com/7DoQ2Xm> if 
>>> we wanted to simplify the website even further.
>>>
>>> - *Explaining why donations matter.* Right now the donate button is 
>>> just … well ... a button. Explaining why people should donate to Tor 
>>> is also important. Seeing something like this 
>>> <https://imgur.com/bklC9DM> from Brain Pickings shows you that it’s 
>>> easy to donate, and that your money is worth a lot when it comes to 
>>> helping out. The emotion factor of that sidebar vs a button that 
>>> says “donate” is huge.
>>>
>>> Now this is just the main page, and there’s definitely a lot of work 
>>> to be done as witnessed by the redesign work in other companies 
>>> <http://codepen.seesparkbox.com/>! I know that there are some 
>>> excited people in Tor as well, and I’d like to help out if that’s 
>>> possible. A little about me: I’m Jag Talon, and I work for 
>>> DuckDuckGo making some front-end stuffs 
>>> <https://medium.com/@juantalon/building-the-developer-pages-consistent-styling-1b91a27c5612#.5sfv8bjks>. 
>>> I have the experience that I think would help in a redesign like 
>>> this, and I have some free time to do it as well.
>>>
>>> I think a good first step would be to have the core Tor people to 
>>> sketch out their ideas and for them to say what would make this 
>>> redesign a success so that we have an idea on what things the design 
>>> should prioritize on. What do you think?
>>>
>>> - Jag Talon
>>
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