[tor-teachers] tor teachers -- politics

[Nathan of Guardian]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 07:01 AM, Nathan of Guardian wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 06:55 AM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> > Dear Nathan and everyone,
> > 
> > > I think as a community of teachers and trainers, we'll have to all be
> > > open to the fact that we are coming from very different backgrounds, and
> > > working with very different communities. I don't think anyone is
> > > actively trying to inject their own personal "P" politics into the list,
> > > but I am sure many kinds of politics will come up, as an aspect of
> > > empowering users who are working against a system that seeks to
> > > disempower them.
> > 
> > I'm totally on board with everything you've said excluding the very
> > last bit here. Forgive me for going down the rabbit hole with you.
> > 
> > We're not working against any system directly. Our efforts are not
> > mere pushback. Sure, we hope to stop surveillance and censorship
> > systems from harming Tor users. The crux here isn't just about
> > protesting "the man" or a specific political party or something along
> > those lines. Rather we've built an alternative and we're teaching
> > people how to utilize it in their lives.
> > 
> > The result is of course political and there is a question of how the
> > new system embodies certain political ideals. In our new system we
> > build on the radical politics of IP networking, we have a right to
> > form and hold ideas without interference, we have a right to free
> > speech and a right to read, we have anonymity of various kinds. We
> > have this as an intentional outcome of strong cryptography where
> > everyone is able to run or to use this new infrastructure. That isn't
> > a matter of just being against a system, it is about iterating and
> > changing the current systems, while also providing alternatives that
> > coexist and which are capable of replacing older, less autonomy
> > respecting, systems which are oppressive.
> > 
> 
> Here, here!
> 

err, Hear, hear!

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  Nathan of Guardian
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