[tor-talk] Revisiting youtube blocking TBB, virtually all 1st attempts to load YT

[joebtfsplk at gmx.com]

@ bo0od, not sure I follow.  Invidious means likely to cause unhappiness
or be unpleasant.
Does that have any relationship to invidio.us or similar sites?

Yes, you can D/L the videos, but you first have to get the URL.  I guess
if you saw a link on another site, your suggestion might make sense.  Or
if you use a proxy or VPN with regular Firefox - if YT worked with them.

On 3/4/20 2:55 PM, Matthew Finkel wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 04:49:16PM -0600, joebtfsplk at gmx.com wrote:
> [snip]
>
> I assume this means you are running Tor Browser in non-private browser
> mode? Otherwise clearing the cache before restarting shouldn't have any
> effect.
Yes, I don't consider YT an adversary or even a site to keep health
information secret, etc.
I'm usually looking for how to "fix something" that I had nothing to do
with breaking. :)

I'm assuming that unless I suddenly started getting an out of proportion
percent of what YT considers bad or suspicious exits, something that
stores in (memory) cache, causes them to continue rejecting new exits,
until I clear the cache.

I haven't tried clearing it manually, then recording how often new
circuits vs. identities are successful.

To see the percent of success that clearing the cache has with a new
circuit or new identity (don't set cookies on YT).
I went a couple of yrs at least, with very few access problems - not
just on YT, but most technical sites I visit.  For me, it's not a huge %
increase of sites now blocking TBB, but a noticeable up tick.

>
> [snip]
>> YT / Google could also have changed their policy - again - how they were
>> going to treat TBB or changed their definition of "abuse," so now there
>> are many more sites meeting their criteria of abusive.
>>
> This is our current assumption, but we don't have any more information
> than what you described and our personal experiences.