[tor-talk] Tor (and other nets) probably screwed by Traffic Analysis by now

[notfriendly at riseup.net]

On 2016-06-05 17:59, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>> Another idea is to use
>> search engines that protect your privacy such as ixquick or duckduckgo
>> (they store search queries but they don't track individuals (I.e they
>> don't store your IP Address, as far as we know that is).
> Those are solutions of a different kind.  What I'm trying to describe 
> is
> an "everyone gets everything" private information retrieval approach,
> but where the "everything" stored on your machine has enormous value
> to you, outside of its role as cover traffic.
> -Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>     On Sunday, June 5, 2016 4:49 PM, "notfriendly at riseup.net"
> <notfriendly at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>  On 2016-06-05 13:38, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>> Prediction market (place your bids):
>>> "First networks utilizing fill traffic as TA countermeasure to
>> emerge and reach early deployment by year end 2017..."
>> It's a bit off-topic, but it's worth keeping in mind what
>> the greater free software community is good at-- like
>> replicating data-- and what it isn't-- like hiding data.
>> For example-- if you've been afraid to look up something
>> on Wikipedia for fear of typing "those words" into Google
>> or Wikipedia, just download Wikipedia.  They have all the
>> tools and docs to help you do that, with an archive format
>> that probably fits very comfortably in your free hard drive
>> space.
>> If anyone does this, you'll immediately notice the benefit
>> of the approach: that cover traffic isn't just random
>> data-- it's Wikipedia.  You can use it for future queries
>> regardless of subject matter, with a greater probability of
>> privacy than anything a future cover-traffic network can get
>> you.
>> There are many other examples out there.  If you spend
>> a little time each week thinking about this approach you'll
>> find it changes how you use the web and internet.  Those
>> changes will affect your values, and if enough people do
>> this it obviously affects what we want and need out of a
>> future cover-traffic network.
>> 
>> -Jonathan
> 
> The idea of downloading the Wikipedia archives is pretty good since it
> doesn't note the content you were looking for. Another idea is to use
> search engines that protect your privacy such as ixquick or duckduckgo
> (they store search queries but they don't track individuals (I.e they
> don't store your IP Address, as far as we know that is).
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Absolutely whoever is monitoring (aka spying) on your traffic if they 
see you downloaded everything it's hard to determine what your looking 
for. Personally the idea of storing a ton of data isn't the best for me 
so rather I simply use Tor + private search engines and trust it to 
protect me.