[tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

[notfriendly at riseup.net]

On 2016-06-05 13:22, df. wrote:
> I agree with Cecilia on this.
> 
> These are serious allegations but,
> Allegations are not equal to Convictions.
> 
> Should this man not have the right to a fair trial?
> 
> The tor project is not about throwing someones rights out the window.
> 
> We all have opinions and are free to share them , but it is 
> irresponsible
> to publicly defame and bash someone without that person having the
> chance to defend themselves in a court of law, no matter how much of a
> prick they are.
> 
> If there was wrong doing and if Jacob is guilty or not is for a court 
> to
> determine.
> 
> If you like him or not has nothing to do with his possible guilt or
> innocence.
> 
> Let us be fair.
> 
> 
> 
> Cecilia Tanaka:
>> On Jun 5, 2016 12:32 PM, <notfriendly at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
>> Some of my personal friends hate Jacob.  Jake is not my best friend, 
>> we are
>> not really close, but yes, he is my friend and my heart is with him in 
>> this
>> moment, because I already know Jake enough to have absolute conviction 
>> that
>> something is terribly "strange" and doesn't sound like "true".
>> 
>> I respect Shari Steele and her work.  I respect Tor Project core team 
>> and
>> voluntary collaborators in whole world.  We all want a better world 
>> for
>> everybody and each one of us work hard for it.  Maybe with different
>> personal beliefs, with different backgrounds, life histories and areas 
>> of
>> work, but we want a better world, less unfair and sad.
>> 
>> Sorry, it is *not* correct at all to judge a person without defense, 
>> in a
>> coward and cruel way.  It's pretty disgusting and unfair.  It's 
>> brutal.
>> 
>> Really sorry if my personal convictions offend someone here, but I 
>> know how
>> easy is to destroy a reputation, years of hard work, a whole life...
>> 
>> Nobody deserves to be hurted and humiliated until losing the faith in
>> humanity and in Justice.  We saw it happening several times before.  
>> Human
>> History is full of sad examples.
>> 
>> Please, be careful before accusing someone.  Every single person in 
>> this
>> world deserves respect and has own value.
>> 
>> With tears and sincere and deep hope,
>> 
>> Cecilia
>> 

I agree. There isn't proof (yet at least) that he did anything wrong. I 
agree that like everyone else he should have the right to a fair trial. 
Your correct the tor project shouldn't and I also believe wouldn't 
attempt to censor speech (considering that they develop an online 
anonymity and anti-censorship tool). I also agree that due to many (not 
all) people's lack of ability to read everything before making up their 
mind it makes it all the more easier to harm someone's reputation. There 
might be people who were actually hurt but we don't know if it's true 
yet.