[tor-talk] Why most democratic contries ­are most active users ofTOR... except Russia of course (k­arsten.n at mailbox.org)

[Ayase]

While Tor may be used for malicious purposes that's an academic issue.  Many people misuse the law to do illegal activities (crooked cops) does that mean we should abandon all law? 
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>      TOR... except Russia of course (karsten.n at mailbox.org)
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>Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 02:00:52 +0100
>From: Moritz Bartl < moritz at torservers.net >
>To:  tor-talk at lists.torproject.org
>Subject: Re: [tor-talk] On further minimizing harassment for Tor Exit
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>On 01/02/2016 10:29 PM, Spencer wrote:
>>> You can achieve something similar by placing your relay in a country
>>> other than your own...
>> This is quite difficult for those of us down under or stranded in the
>> middle of giant nations like Russia or Canada.
>
>How so? I know Russians who rent servers outside their country, and
>likewise for Canadians. :-)
>
>> I dig the exit policy idea; seems clean and simple.
>
>Well, it's not as clean and simple as it sounds like, as I outlined in
>my post (GeoIP db).
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>Moritz Bartl
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>Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 11:00:21 +0100 (CET)
>From:  karsten.n at mailbox.org
>To:  tor-talk at lists.torproject.org
>Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Why most democratic contries are most active
>users of TOR... except Russia of course
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>Hi,
>
>On January 2, 2016 at 10:49 PM Justin wrote:
>> I really doubt that 1.5 million bots are using Tor everyday by the way.
>
>The Mevade.A botnet had 4 million bots, which were using Tor in summer
>2013. Some links:
>
>http://blog.fox-it.com/2013/09/05/large-botnet-cause-of-recent-tor-network-overload/
>http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/the-mysterious-mevade-malware/
>
>Mevade.A has done some mistakes by switching all bots in a short time to
>Tor. This behaviour attracts more attention to the botnet:
>
>https://threatpost.com/moving-to-tor-a-bad-move-for-massive-botnet/102284/
>
>I think, Tor usage is a mirror of real world problems. Everybody, who want
>s to have a little anonymity, is using Tor. Malicious bots hiding C&C
>communication, criminals selling drugs, people watching all kinds of porn,
>intelligence agencies and military cyber forces are using Tor.... and so
>on. 
>
>Human rights activists in bloody regimes with murderous dictators are a
>very very small group in real world and it is a very small group among Tor
>users too. 
>
>Greetings
>Karsten N.
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