[tor-talk] Illegal Activity As A Metric of Tor Security and Anonymity
Mark McCarron
mark.mccarron at live.co.uk
Tue Jul 1 00:02:10 UTC 2014
Christopher,
That's a very selective reading and I don't particularly care what you think. For the record, this is what was stated:
"Basically, I keep a track of site numbers year-on-year, site availability from 3rd party monitoring and read comments on forums and chat. From what I can gather, most of these sites were suspected of being honeypots due to their tendency to remove anything rape/violence related. That is, they appeared sanitised in some way. Then all of sudden, they started disappearing. Some were connected with major busts of hosting providers, others without any indication what happened."
Mark McCarron - June 25th
If he attempts to insinuate that I was accessing or attempting access illegal material again, I will sue him.
He obviously has a problem, not with me, but the discussion about securing Tor against intelligence agencies with a global view and the fact that I pointed out that Tor appears to be designed to fit into the US intelligence apparatus. In short, cleverly designed spyware/malware.
Given that such a modification would only serve to improve Tor, then everyone needs to question what Mr Morgan
(Mick) is up to.
Regards,
Mark McCarron
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 16:32:24 -0700
From: cb736 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Illegal Activity As A Metric of Tor Security and Anonymity
To: mark.mccarron at live.co.uk
Please do us all a favor and send this only to the relevant subscriber, instead of sending them two copies. No one else cares, other than to serve to discredit yourself. This is what you said:"I
have been examining the number of what would normally be deemed as illegal sites sites on Tor. Eliminating the narcotics trade, as these tend to be intelligence agency backed enterprises, a serious decline has been noted across the board.This would tend to suggest that exposure is common place and users no longer feel safe. In the more serious categories, such as child porn and violent sexual material"This is what you have quoted Mick as saying:Interesting point. In many, if not most, countries the very act ofaccessing such material is illegal. Yet, McCarron, in his post of
25June, admitted on this public email list that he now had difficultyaccessing "the more serious categories, such as child porn andviolent sexual material".That strikes me as stupid. Certainly it is not "low key" as you say.Mick has not, in my opinion, defamed you. But has pointed out that in some countries accessing "child porn and violent sexual material" is illegal, but neither did you say that you had actually accessed any of those sites - what you said is that you had "been examining the number" of sites like that that existed.
I see an apology in order, but by you, not by Mick.
--Christopher Booth From: Mark McCarron <mark.mccarron at live.co.uk> To: "tor-talk at lists.torproject.org" <tor-talk at lists.torproject.org>; "mbm at rlogin.net" <mbm at rlogin.net> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Illegal Activity As A Metric of Tor Security and Anonymity Mick,I would be very careful what you claim in your emails. I have the capability of suing you into oblivion, that email constitutes defamation. Nothing like that was ever said, either retract it or I will take you for everything that you've got.Your choice.Regards,Mark McCarronDate: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:11:50 +0100From: mbm at rlogin.netTo: tor-talk at lists.torproject.orgSubject: Re: [tor-talk] Illegal Activity As A Metric of Tor Security and AnonymityOn Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:05:06 -0400tor at t-3.net allegedly wrote:> > I have a hard time believing that you've been effectively tracking so > much 'child porn, rape, snuff videos' content that you can > conclusively say that all such content has suddenly disappeared from > Tor. My knowledge about the way that kind of content works is, that> no one person would be able to access much of it unless they were a > creator/trader of the stuff. Such a person would be trying to be > low-key about it out of fear for themselves, not posting in this list > and seeming to admit to having been tracking that content. So -
- not > a match, for whatever reason. Interesting point. In many, if not most, countries the very act ofaccessing such material is illegal. Yet, McCarron, in his post of 25June, admitted on this public email list that he now had difficultyaccessing "the more serious categories, such as child porn andviolent sexual material". That strikes me as stupid. Certainly it is not "low key" as you say. Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk at lists.torproject.orgTo unsubscribe or change other settings go tohttps://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk at lists.torproject.orgTo unsubscribe or change other settings go tohttps://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
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