[tor-talk] Terminology: Deep v Dark Web

[Lars Luthman]

On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 05:06 -0500, Roger Dingledine wrote: 
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 06:44:11PM +1000, Katya Titov wrote:
> > So are there any useful stats on the size of the dark web?
> 
> Check out http://freehaven.net/anonbib/#oakland2013-trawling
> for some statistics about the number of hidden services as of about
> a year ago. It's not all that precise (and the fact that they could
> collect these stats represents several bugs:
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/hidden-services-need-some-love )
> but it's pretty darn clear that it's not "vast reaches of the Internet"
> -- more like on the order of 1000 hidden services, many of which aren't
> all that popular.
> 
> (Not that popularity is a good judge of the value of a hidden service;
> see example #1 on https://blog.torproject.org/blog/using-tor-good )

And considering the existence of systems like Torchat where every user
has their own hidden service used only for private communication, it's
plausible that a large part of the hidden services, maybe even a
majority, have nothing to do with the web at all.


--ll
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