[tor-talk] Windows firewall [citation]

Julie Chartier jewelschartier3 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 21 19:15:03 UTC 2014


Hi. Please let me know whwn c connected is the bug tracker ? my apartment
is she boat. Can thermal imaging be done through my camera?I am not leaving
my house without evidence of the abusive powers that be they have been in
my house I believe different (that increased in intensity to about thde max
Ive heard it running at other times)
wait until my son.is my browser historyable to distinguish between the
different frequencies and turn when I am its so I couldn't meet my attorney
I just assumed don't want them coming in wedding it did you hear that I can
listen to turn

Julie Chartier
On Jan 21, 2014 10:51 AM, "Patrick Schleizer" <adrelanos at riseup.net> wrote:

> TheMindwareGroup:
> > Programs can automatically add themselves to the windows firewall
> > found some code that does it here:-
> >
> >
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366421%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
> >
> > Making useless against attacks from the inside.
>
> It has already been said, that firewalls by concept won't work against
> attacks from the inside since there are too many ways to circumvent
> firewalls.
>
> In my opinion, Windows personal firewalls attempting to filter outgoing
> traffic are only cash cows. Good marketing. No sensible security concept.
>
> Let's imagine for a moment someone wrote an Open Source Personal
> Firewall (application level firewall) for Windows. Now someone writes
> proof of concept code on how to circumvent that firewall. A new bug
> against that firewall gets opened. But... The bug can not be fixed due
> to limitations in Windows API and architecture. And since Windows isn't
> Open Source and Microsoft doesn't care about strong security, the
> underlying problem can not be solved. The bug persists, no chance of
> ever getting fixed.
>
> See also:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_firewall
>
> Thinking about it some more... An application level firewall is similar
> to an attempt to create a generic AppArmor. An application similar to
> AppArmor, that doesn't need profiles, because it somehow understands all
> applications it's designed to confine. We don't even have this in the
> Linux world were source codes are available. Forget about even thinking
> about implementing this for Windows.
>
> If you are interested in innovative security technologies, look into
> Linux, AppArmor, grsecurty, Qubes OS, etc. You could have a lot fun
> writing profiles, which restrict everything but white listed things.
> Windows is in this regard too limited. That's also why what you are
> asking for doesn't exist and why no one is working on it.
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