[tor-talk] Off topic- Android is suspect spyware?

[Yuri]

On 12/10/2014 22:54, Jon Tullett wrote:
> Yes. Get a forked device, like an Amazon Kindle Fire - such vendors
> replace much of the Google software, often including the default app
> store, with their own. But if you trust the third party more than
> Google, your paranoia is broken.

Spyware can be embedded in hardware itself.
This isn't about Android, but some desktop network cards are able to 
manage TCP connections even without any operating system present:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology

AMT can accept TCP connections, and also potentially can initiate 
connections, and transfer information from your computer out to whoever 
it is hardwired to.

Yuri