[tor-talk] TBB and tor-relays as a bitcoin wallets

[Joshua Datko]

Also, Bitcoin is not anonymous [1].  So while relays are public, generally
the Tor clients take great pains to not disclose their identities.  If
clients starting tipping relays, to their relay public key, a good attacker
would guess would be that a Tor client used that relay.  Then I think some
linkage attacks would be possible.

Also, and I think this was discussed on this list before, offering payment
may actually decrease the number of volunteers [2].

I was initially interested in researching a technical way to offer payments
to relays by the clients joining a mining pool and somehow paying the relay
from the pool (something like ring signatures).  But there is a lot of
technical complexity linking these two systems.   Also, as evidenced by
Roman's email and [2], this may shift social behaviors in the Tor network
for the worse.

Josh

[1]
http://anonymity-in-bitcoin.blogspot.com/2011/07/bitcoin-is-not-anonymous.html
[2]
https://www.emeraldinsight.com/bibliographic_databases.htm?id=1808986&show=abstract



On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Roman Mamedov <rm at romanrm.net> wrote:

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> Trigger Happy <triggerhappy at openmail.cc> wrote:
>
> > Just an idea. In theory : is it possible to implement bitcoin wallet
> > into tor-relay and TBB 1) ? TBB users could tip tor-relays (f.e. 1
> > satoshi for guard and middle relay,  3 satoshi for exit-node per
> > circuit). Running tor-relays could be profitable or at least cheaper.
> >
> > 1).I think Cody Wilson is working on a bitcoin wallet in a browser.
>
> Please stop trying to make people build buttcoin wallets into everything.
> Not
> everyone may be a fan of your "satoshi"-shitoshi pyramid scheme, shocked
> eh?
> If supporting Tor will automatically mean pushing the Bitcoin scam onto
> people,
> e.g. personally I will have to reconsider whether or not I want to
> continue my
> participation as a relay operator.
>
> - --
> With respect,
> Roman
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