[tor-talk] Silk Road taken down by FBI

[krishna e bera]

On 13-10-03 09:13 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote:
> --On Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:54 PM -0400 Roger Dingledine
> <arma at mit.edu> wrote:
> 
>>> that he was sold out by his VPN provider. Hopefully, the identity of
>>> that VPN provider will come out soon.
>>
>> Why? So everybody can abandon that VPN and move to a different one that
>> also responds to subpoenas but hasn't been written about in a
>> high-profile
>> court case yet? :)
> 
> 
>     So that the company can be blacklisted as clowns who cooperate with
> the US government, unlike a few principled individuals out there?

If the FBI had to use a subpoena it means the VPN provider wasnt
cooperating, but was forced by legal means to hand over the info.

It would be unrealistic to expect any provider in any country to destroy
subscriber info after they had received a notice from a judge ordering
it to be turned over to police.  At least in some countries a court
order is required.

Much better in the long run for Tor and other anonymity services to get
governments to pass laws limiting data retention.  That way the provider
wouldnt have the info to hand over.