[tor-talk] Porn make the world more free: Tor Porn Bundle?

[fakefake at tormail.org]

You dare to speak about the topic with your name attached. Respect man.
Blatantly spoken, blatantly answered.

This a nice idea. I got few questions for you.

How could porn banned people send money to porn industry when they cant
even reach porn websites without circumvention tool? Dont tell me about
btc. If they are too stupid to know about tor know how can they learn to
use btc anonymously.

How does the circumvention stuff make a better world? People are to coward
to kick their government ass for their porn rights. Result they can simply
not wank off so easily. Whats the big deal?

How can satisfying their wanking needs help them fighting for porn rights?
Let them suffer. Let them fight. Do not ease the suffering.

> Hi,
>
> i've been at internet governance forum (in italy) yesterday and
> starteddiscussing a topic with several internet freedom/policy activists:
>
> "porn make the world more free"
>
> It seems a joke, but it maybe an important consideration.
>
> A teenager (12-18 yo) in 2012 use internet porn websites for masturbation.
> That's a real facts, i expect, almost everywhere.
>
> In places like Saudi, a 14th years old young have a strong need of
> masturbate like in any other place in the world.
> But he don't have access to internet porn with his broadband internet
> access.
>
> In the Saudi example there are already now people providing paid (and
> risky) access to porn for masturbation's needs:
> http://arabnews.com/jailed-facilitating-porn-site-access
> This as an example of a real need that stimulate people in finding
> circumvention methods.
>
> So, when a teenager in Saudi need to masturbate he have to find out a
> censorship circumvention tool.
>
> From a marketing perspective this is a clearly definable "need" .
>
> Ok, how can we think to make out of it (masturbation and porn) something
> good for freedom of speech?
>
> Imho we may think to create something like "Tor Porn Bundle": A version
> of TBB specifically designed to provide easy access to Porn.
> Then promote it trough custom targeted campaigns across all Arab World
> (and language/countries where internet porn is censored).
>
> Which would be the main result in mid-term?
>
> That most teenagers (and also non teenagers, but probably in minor part)
> in that closed-society will learn, understand and start using censorship
> circumvention tool for an important, basic need: Masturbate!
>
> We should not underestimate the relevance of this need because it fit
> along with the "Basic" human needs, like eating.
> So the effort and perceived rewards that a person have working on the
> path to satisfy that need is very high.
>
> In that hypothetical Torn Porn Bundle, we may deliver a pre-populated
> in-language list of porn websites.
> But also some "free" "in language" media website and other free / non
> censored information sources and social networking tools.
>
> That way, after masturbation, the user will be able to have a clear and
> simple path to start accessing the web in a free way.
>
> As a side node i would like to remind that the "porn industry" is valued
> billion of USD.
> If porn industry would became partners of freedom of speech players, it
> could means a lot of money for investment in campaigning and technology
> development, because it would means opening new markets to them.
> Opening a new market means having new consumer that means they would be
> able to calculate the economic ROI of an investment.
>
> * Porn supported the development of internet backbone
> * Porn developed early internet multimedia streaming technologies
> * Porn may make the world more free
>
> -naif
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