[tor-talk] Hi all!

[proper at tormail.net]

> On 01/21/12 at 03:44 PM, Christopher J. Walters wrote:
>
>  > 2. What is the best way to use a VPN with Tor to increase anonymity?
>
>  You're not going to get better anonymity by using VPNs with Tor.
> Anonymity is what Tor does very well, far better than any commercial VPN
> arrangement. With VPNs, there are potentially always logs that lead back
> to you. You can make the trails hard to follow, by nesting VPNs from
> multiple providers and paying anonymously, but you can't eliminate them.
>
>  You can use VPNs with Tor in two ways. You can route Tor through VPN
> services. That prevents your ISP etc from seeing that you're using Tor.
> Generally, VPNs are more popular than Tor, so you won't stand out as
> much. Once the VPN client has connected, the VPN tunnel will be the
> machine's default Internet connection, and the Tor Browser Bundle will
> route through it.
>
>  You can also route VPN services through Tor. That hides and secures your
> Internet activity from Tor exit nodes. Although you are exposed to VPN
> exit nodes, you at least get to choose them. If you're using VPNs in this
> way, you'll want to pay for them anonymously (cash in the mail, Liberty
> Reserve, well-laundered Bitcoin, etc). However, you can't readily do this
> without using virtual machines. And you'll need to use TCP mode for the
> VPNs (to route through Tor). In our experience, establishing VPN
> connections through Tor is chancy, and requires much tweaking.

With your permission, parts of this could be used in the torproject.org
wiki. Mailing list discussion would be linked. I am going to create a new
article related to Tor plus VPN.

Can you agree with that?