The team of PayPal is a band of pigs and cads!

[Stephen Carpenter]

And I imagine that means you were too nice to respond with "Can I
please talk to someone who actually understands what I am talking
about?"

Way back in the day when ISPs offered shell accounts, I noticed that
ping was in sbin on solaris. So I made myself a ~/bin dir and made a
sym link to ping (I know, a bit round about, but it made sense to me
at the time). I thought nothing of it, and forgot all about it.

One day, a year or so later, my account was locked and when I called,
I was told it was because it looked like my "account had been hacked
and someone enabled unauthorized access to the ping command". I just
didn't even know how to respond to that other than thanking them and
changing my password.

Of course, this is the same service where I got a talk message from
someone, and he started asking if I could help with his algebra
homework. After going over some problems with him and explaining a
bit, I was then asked if I needed another email address, as he was the
head sysadmin.

-Steve

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew at torproject.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:48:13 +0000
> James Brown <jbrownfirst at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They block accounts of their user if users ised the Tor or another
>> anonymous proxy!!!
>
> I think the answer here is more complex.  I've used tor's paypal-based
> donation account through Tor without issue for years.  Possibly, Paypal
> has a bot detection program looking for many users logging in from the
> same IP address.  This is similar to what Google, Yahoo, and others have
> done.  If you happen to exit from a popular exit node, Paypal flags you
> as potentially compromised.
>
> I've attempted to have conversations with Paypal to no avail.  Getting
> an actual human to talk to you with a clue about their security
> measures is incredibly difficult.  Just try asking them for their SSL
> fingerprint because you're worried about phishing.  When I tried, I was
> sent to their abuse dept who were thoroughly unhappy I was asking
> "suspicious questions about ssl".
>
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