How to set time.
Niels Elgaard Larsen
elgaard at agol.dk
Thu Jul 23 22:58:49 UTC 2009
Scott Bennett wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:32:27 -0400 Niels Elgaard Larsen <elgaard at agol.dk>
> wrote:
>> Yes, that was why i suggested only using it to set the time zone by
>> changing the clock a number of hours.
>
> I don't think that would be good enough to satisfy tor's requirements
> for time consistency.
No, but what i meant was that if the system time is wrong, there is a
good chance that it is a time-zone mismatch in which case adjusting a
clock a multiple number of ours should be safe.
>> Using an average of three entry-nodes could also work. Maybe add a
>> little random time.
>
> Actually, no, three would not be enough, but statistical quality
> control of some sort would be necessary. First off, this kind of thing
> should be a last resort option, not a common approach.
Well, if done right it could be a good way for the client to set it time.
...
>> GPS or DCF77 would be good, but requires hardware.
>
> Right. Those are no good in this situation.
But GPS might be an option on e.g. Android platforms in the future.
> Exactly. Also, NTP is not encrypted, so an observer would know the
> set of time values from which one value would be used by the client.
> Lest another point be forgotten, the methods of determining the correct
> time that we are discussing here would only be available in the case of
> client operations. tor should still not set a clock or offset itself if
> it is to run as a relay.
No, but maybe a hidden node
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