lots of DMCA request's... (1/day)

tor-operator at sky-haven.net tor-operator at sky-haven.net
Wed May 21 08:33:00 UTC 2008


Geoffrey Goodell wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 06:34:41PM -0400, Brian Puccio wrote:
> 
> [many interesting points cut]
> 
> I think that we need to take a step back and understand more about the
> complaints being served to ISPs.
> 
> 1. Some are clearly DMCA takedown notices.  Are these the vast majority?
> What other kinds of abuse notices are served to Tor exit node operators,
> with what frequency and in what proportions?

The ISPs and hosting providers tend to have agreements with their 
network providers that stipulate that the customer ISP take action to 
avoid stuff the provider doesn't like.  Such as phishing and break-in 
attempts, which are bad.  But also things like IRC usage (yes, even IRC 
clients).

> 2. To what extent are ISPs legally bound to respond to the various
> different kinds of notices?  For each of the various kinds of abuse
> complaints, surely some ISPs will say "this is an anonymizing relay, go
> away", while others will engage in an expensive investigation process,
> and still others will just shut down their customers without further
> questions.  ISP staffers and counsel might not like the idea of being
> served legal requests, but it is critical that we understand the extent
> to which they are legally bound to respond, and the space of potential
> responses.  If the points in this document [1] do not provide a simple,
> consistent, effective way for ISPs to respond without significant
> thought, then the document should be amended -- but it is not clear to
> me that ISPs are significantly burdened by abuse complaints in the
> general case.  I would like to see evidence to the contrary.

Some hosting providers (not just ISPs) receive 100s of abuse complaints 
for various kind of stuff in a month.  Some of them may show up from 
process servers.



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