more letters from the feds

[Ringo Kamens]

It might be easier for you to have the tor traffic routed through a
gateway machine and have it limit bandwidth.

On 1/11/07, gabrix <gabrix at gabrix.ath.cx> wrote:
> xiando wrote:
> >> I think this is a valid point. I ran an exit-node for a short while at
> home
> >> without thinking too much about it. The huge amount of traffic I was
> >> attracting (even within minutes of booting up) made me shut it off for
> the
> >> sake of personal convenience, but I don't think I will ever go back -
> >>
> >
> > Use bandwidth limiting?
> >
> > BandwidthRate 45 KB
> > BandwidthBurst 95 KB
> >
> > This is low, but that's all I can spare on my home ADSL, and at least it
> > contributes something. Limit your home node and it don't attract more than
> > you can spare. Also, you can lower it temporarily (the minimum is 20 KB)
> and
> > just -HUP tor if you need to upload a big file somewhere or something like
> > that.
> >
> >
> >> explaining to the authorities why child porn/terrorist manuals/online
> fraud
> >> appear to have originated from my home IP is not an edifying prospect, to
> >> say the least.
> >>
> >
> > This is something you need to consider if you're going to run a exit node,
> you
> > may have to face legal problems running a Tor exit server. If you are not
> > willing to do it then don't. My view is that if it ever comes to that then
> > I'll just face the legal problems, for in my view it won't be a matter of
> >
> > me vs. the state
> >
> > it'll be a matter of
> >
> > freedom (of speech) vs the state
> >
> > and if freedom vs the state has to be tried with my being involved then
> I'll
> > do it.
> >
> >
> >> These days I generally run a middle-man node but even that has started to
> >> feel inappropriate for home use. I would be amazed if regular appearances
> >> on directory servers does not blink wildly on some form of institutional
> >> radar, low-hanging fruit and all that.
> >>
> >
> > Middle-man don't exit any traffic. If someone puts you on a list simply
> for
> > _relaying_ encrypted traffic from A to B then that's just insane, but if
> > someone wants to do it, then go ahead. I really don't see how running a
> > middle-man node could get you into any kind of trouble (but what do I
> know).
> >
> > Has anyone ever got into trouble for running a middle-man node?
> >
> >
> >> * From a common-sense, peace-of-mind point of view, is running an
> exit-node
> >> strictly for co-located servers? Does anyone here run one at home? If so,
> >> have you had second thoughts?
> >>
> >
> > I run exit nodes co-located and also on my home ADSL. I don't have any
> second
> > thoughts, but as said, I am aware that I may get into legal trouble and
> I'm
> > 100% willing to face that if it comes to it - because, as said, I view
> that
> > as something that would be Freedom vs Tyranny, allowing Tor-servers vs.
> > forbidding them, not something that really has anything to do with me
> (apart
> > from my name being on the legal action because I run a tor-server, but the
> > case itself won't be me vs. the state, it'll be Tor vs. the state).
> >
> >
> >> * Are tor-at-home users who run middleman servers out of the goodness of
> >> their heart possibly exposing themselves to unwanted attention? Do we
> have
> >> any evidence of such attention, anecdotal or otherwise?
> >>
> >
> > Very good question. You'll be on the list of tor-servers, but I see no
> > other "attention" you could get.
> >
> >
>
> I had run an exit node as middle-man for about 5 mounthes and i never
> got into any kind of legal troubble apart that normal operations like
> browsing were impossible even bandwidth limiting
> BandwidthRate 20KB and BandwidthBurst 20KBthe minimum possible.I hope
> with new versions of tor , bandwidth limiting improved because when i
> used it, it didn't seem much to work .My isp says i have a 2MB
> connection in download but it never goes up 500KB-700KB most of the
> time.I was really disappointed to stop my middle-man but i had to .Let
> me know how you find bandwidth limiting  once you start because you
> better start and try yourself , hasta siempre !!!
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