P2P revisited.

[Ringo Kamens]

Well, free speech does clash with copyright so I'm not going to argue that
they are abusing the network. I know I've just seen it floating around
places like zeropaid, pg forums, and a few others. Can't point you directly,
but do this google query:
inurl:p2psitehere.com "tor"


On 5/20/06, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On May 20, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Ringo Kamens wrote:
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> > I'm not sure if you all know this, but on most of the large
> > filesharing forums, they are reccomending people use tor for
> > filesharing (gnutella,ed2k, etc.) in order to increase anonymity which
> > creates a HUGE network load.
> Any urls? we could probably point out that that's a bad idea. And
> anyone doing it is killing freedom of speech in China.
> > Can an exit node owner please tell us
> > approx. how much traffic he gets on these ports? (Gnutella is 6346).
> >
> > On 5/20/06, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Good point. Consider the idea abandoned.
> >> On May 20, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Fabian Keil wrote:
> >>
> >> > Watson Ladd <watsonbladd at gmail.com> top posted:
> >> >
> >> >>> Watson Ladd <watsonbladd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> If we created a P2P client using Tor that acted as an exit
> >> node we
> >> >>>> could get a lot more users, a lot more traffic, and a lot more
> >> >>>> capacity, all adding to the anonymity Tor provides.  Any
> >> downsides?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> While it could motivate some people to run Tor on their servers
> >> >>> and thus adding capacity, I believe it's more likely that it
> >> >>> would motivate more people to block as much Tor traffic
> >> >>> as possible and lead to congestion of the network.
> >> >
> >> >> Who would do this blocking? Some examples would be nice. I
> >> think most
> >> >> ISP's don't want customers to leave instead of use their full
> >> >> bandwidth allocation.
> >> >
> >> > ISPs which offer flatrates but don't want them to be used as such.
> >> >
> >> > Here in Germany many ISPs rate limit known P2P ports and are quite
> >> > happy if P2P users decide to leave. Less P2P users means less
> >> traffic
> >> > and more profit.
> >> >
> >> > Fabian
> >> > --
> >> > http://www.fabiankeil.de/
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Watson Ladd
> >> ---
> >> "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
> >> Temporary Safety deserve neither  Liberty nor Safety."
> >> -- Benjamin Franklin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> Sincerely,
> Watson Ladd
> ---
> "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
> Temporary Safety deserve neither  Liberty nor Safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin
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