Broadband Reports: Tor Network Bogged Down by P2P

Ben Wilhelm zorba at pavlovian.net
Tue Oct 18 05:31:10 UTC 2005


So, um, how exactly do you track how much bandwidth each user is using 
on a network whose sole goal is anonymization?

And then let's associate that information with a server that's supposed 
to have an admin email contact available.

-Ben

jed c wrote:
> The solution seems simple to me. Anyone using huge
> amounts of bandwidth should be required to run a tor
> router.
> 
> 
>>Chris Palmer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>----- Forwarded message from John Gilmore
> 
> <gnu at toad.com> -----
> 
>>>From: John Gilmore <gnu at toad.com>
>>>Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:40:18 -0700
>>>Subject: [E-IP] Broadband Reports: Tor Network
> 
> Bogged Down by P2P
> 
>>>http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/68438
>>>
>>>Some time ago our security regulars broke down the
> 
> logistics behind
> 
>>>Tor, an anonymity tool from the Electronic Frontier
> 
> Foundation. It was
> 
>>>designed for whistle-blowers, political dissidents,
> 
> researchers, and
> 
>>>others concerned about exchanging information
> 
> without authoritarian
> 
>>>backlash. Sadly network performance is being
> 
> jeopardized by
> 
>>>file-traders looking to evade the RIAA.
>>>
>>>File traders have been reconfiguring their Bit
> 
> Torrent clients to take
> 
>>>advantage of the network. Unfortunately the Tor
> 
> network wasn't
> 
>>>designed with high volume porn transfer in mind, so
> 
> the activity is
> 
>>>slowing it down to a crawl. The likely result will
> 
> be the EFF running
> 
>>>against the grain of their mandate, and restricting
> 
> network use.
> 
>>>...
>>>
>>>	John
>>>
>>>
>>>----- End forwarded message -----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Bah, I see no problem with using it to evade the
> 
> RIAA.  sure, it sucks
> 
>>for us Tor people who use it for what is was
> 
> intended for.  It just
> 
>>means we need more nodes, and we need to grow more
> 
> to support this
> 
>>demand.  I'm all for giving the finger to "the man."
>>
>>It's time for Tor to expand, not regulate.  And if
> 
> expansions isn't
> 
>>possible, just let it suck!  I can't imagine many
> 
> fileshare people will
> 
>>cleave unto dial-up speeds with their broadband... 
> 
> Once they learn that
> 
>>it sucks to use Tor, they'll stop.  We need
> 
> knee-jerk decisions in this
> 
>>project like we need knee-jerk political actions...
>>
>>But, that's just my $0.02
>>
>>
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