[tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP

Rana ranaventures at gmail.com
Sun Dec 4 21:15:53 UTC 2016


My international connectivity is just fine, connection speed is stable at 1.5 mbps and I have a Stable flag. Three authorities voted to give me HSDir and Fast. I have provided my Torrc. My consensus weight is stable for several days now, at 14.

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From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-bounces at lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of teor
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Unwarranted discrimination of relays with dynamic IP


> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 07:44, Netgear Ready <rndduo at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> Im not sure if I'm entitled to post here, but i think my contribution 
> might be useful. I am running two relays on dynamic IPs which change 
> about very 24hours, my advertised bandwidth is around 700KB/s, 
> Actually used are around 150KB/s which gives about 20% of the 
> advertised bandwidth. This ratio is of course little bit lower than 
> the static IP relays but by no means as severe as Rana’s. Maybe Rana’s 
> configuration might have a problem and we should make a step back and 
> look closer on Rana’s configuration to figure out what’s going on.

Yes, that's an important point. If other operators with dynamic IPs aren't seeing this issue, perhaps the dynamic IP is not the problem?

Maybe Rana's Raspberry Pi (or router) can't handle the number of connections required to run a relay?

Maybe their ISP has poor international connectivity?

Maybe their connection can't sustain traffic speeds reliably?

There are plenty of answers other than a dynamic IP address.

In fact, the bandwidth measurement code doesn't even store IP addresses, so the issue can't be there.

But the reachability code does reset the time when it last reached the relay every time the address changes, in node_addrs_changed().

So there is that factor as well, which would reset the flags.
But it still shouldn't affect the bandwidth measurements.
They should be much higher.

Tim

> Kind regards
> 
> 
> 2016-12-04 20:23 GMT, Sec INT <sec.int9 at gmail.com>:
>> Hi Alan
>> 
>> If you have more than one relay you add the fingerprint of any other 
>> relay you run to your torrc file - if say I ran 10 relays and exits 
>> there may be a chance that you would route through just my servers 
>> thus you would not be anonymous as I could follow you through from entry to exit.
>> 
>> In short if you have more than one relay or exit add the fingerprint 
>> of the other relays exits to your torrc file
>> 
>> Cheers Snap
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Dec 2016, at 19:58, Alan <tor-relay at clutterbuck.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In the UK it depends what ISP your on. Virgin Media gives out static 
>>> ip's as far as i know. BT (what i'm using) is dynamic, the ip 
>>> changes every time the router reboots. It reboots when it detects a 
>>> fault which is normally between 2-4 weeks on average.
>>> 
>>> These are my relays:
>>> 
>>> TheCosmos (running on home ip (raspberry pi))
>>> https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/38B330302F1FB79ED11A468FC9DEA8
>>> 960B842B57
>>> 
>>> MilkyWay (running on Digital Ocean)
>>> https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/E856ABA2020AA9C483CC2D9B4C878D
>>> 8D948B0887
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know what the 'Family Members' does and should my relays 
>>> have this set?
>>> 
>>>> In Germany, it's quite usual that you have a dynamic IP and unusual 
>>>> that you have static IP. Not just a few relays are located in 
>>>> Germany.  It's not just a question of frustration of owners of 
>>>> dynamic IP relay, but also a matter of bandwith waste. If Tor 
>>>> cannot handle dynamic IPs properly a lot of bandwith is not used. 
>>>> And bandwith is something that the Tor network can not get enough 
>>>> of.

T

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