[tor-relays] question terms and conditions servdiscount

[fatal]

Thanks Juris, that was clear.

Would be great if you could add this to the hoster experience page of
torservers - thanks.

On 12.07.2015 20:23, Juris - torservers.net wrote:
> Short answer:
> Keep away from any myLoc company.
> They are Tor unfriendly and will shut down your server as soon as you
> run Tor. And of course they will keep the money.
> 
> They kicked us even before we installed anything. Just because of our
> domain name torservers.net
> 
> So please don't use them!
> 
> Juris Vetra
> https://www.torservers.net/
> 
> Am 12.07.2015 um 18:46 schrieb fatal:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> hopefully a (preferably german) lawyer is subscribed to this list.
>>
>> I was thinking of starting an exit-relay on a dedicated machine. The
>> german company servdiscount offers very cheap machines with 1 gbit
>> connection (500 mbit guaranteed). They don't mention tor in their terms
>> and conditions but § 10 worries me a bit (myLoc is the mother company of
>> servdiscount):
>>
>> "The customer is obligated, to refrain from sending e-mails to third
>> parties who have not consented to receipt beforehand or whose consent to
>> receive cannot be inferred from other means. This likewise applies to
>> sending postings in chats and/or forums. The customer promises to pay
>> myLoc a contractual penalty in the amount of 5,100.00 Euro per incident
>> in the event of culpable breach of this obligation under exclusion of
>> the assumption of repeated offence."
>>
>> https://servdiscount.com/en/about-us/terms-and-conditions.html
>>
>> or in german:
>>
>> "10. Der Kunde ist verpflichtet, keine E-Mails an Dritte zu versenden,
>> die dem Empfang nicht zuvor zugestimmt haben oder deren Einverständnis
>> zum Empfang nicht anderweitig vermutet werden kann. Dies gilt ebenfalls
>> für das Versenden von Postings in Chats und/oder Foren. Der Kunde
>> verspricht für jeden Einzelfall ein er schuldhaften Zuwiderhandlung
>> gegen diese Verpflichtung unter Ausschluss der Annahme eines
>> Fortsetzungszusammenhangs die Zahlung einer Vertragsstrafe in Höhe von
>> 5.100,00 Euro an myLoc. Die Geltendmachung weiterer Ansprüche bleibt
>> vorbehalten."
>>
>> https://servdiscount.com/ueber-uns/agb.html
>>
>> Would this condition apply in case a tor user would e. g. rant around in
>> a forum? Or would beeing a provider keep me from paying  	5.100,00 Euro
>> (!) to myLoc?
>>
>> thanks!
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