[tor-relays] Anonbox Project

[Thomas White]

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I understand the approach of this, but it again reverts back to the
problem of people believing a product will provide them reasonable
protection without the responsibility of having to take measures
themselves. There are stories everyday in the newspapers who think
using a fake name on Facebook is enough to stop police tracking the
actions of that account to them.

As in the other reply to this message, the hardware isn't open source
and there has been a critique posted below:

https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/2j9caq/anonabox_tor_router_box_is_false_representation

Well intentioned, but as many before me have highlighted; good
intentions is not enough if the product does not provide true
security. Tor is a technology like many things, but I feel this
product is out to make a buck from open source software while
under-delivering on it's promises by providing an inferior product.
How many more times do we need people to be put off Tor because
somebody makes a crap implementation and a headline follows with the
usual "TOR IS BROKEN"?

The money in that kickstarter is proof there is cash to fund such
things, but it is now in the hands of people riding the wave following
the NSA fallout in hope for profit and not actual innovation.

- -T


On 15/10/2014 15:51, Andrew Lewman wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 08:00 AM, Thomas White wrote:
>> I am personally hoping somebody high up in the Tor Project
>> management will openly condemn this atrocity and hopefully
>> Kickstarter and the funders will withdraw their funds before a
>> whole load of people buy into this "security as a tool" idea.
> 
> I'm more inclined to support him. He appears to be taking our
> designs and thoughts verbatim from Jake's initial thoughts on a
> torouter[1]. Access Now did some work on the OpenWRT version of the
> torouter[2]. Now is our chance to help shape this into a product we
> like. Others have tried to take their own approach without such
> attention to technical details.
> 
> I look forward to having some smart people analyze the final
> product and figure out where the strengths and weaknesses lie.
> Anonabox's response to this analysis will tell us far more than
> anything else.
> 
> 
> [1] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/Torouter
> 
> [2] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/OpenWRT
> 
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