[tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

[tor at t-3.net]

 Think bigger, say what?

Certain of the world's biggest and most well-funded intelligence 
agencies hate personal privacy on the internet so much that they've 
been going to extreme efforts to destroy it. They are packet sniffing 
the NAPs and fiber backbones to pull out everything they can, they 
hacked/broke HTTPS, they are backdoored into the big content 
providers, they hacked the banking system, they are apparently 'in' 
some hardware crypto chips - the list goes on -

They infiltrated the tech groups which were designing software and 
hardware and sabotaged their work, making their crypto be 
weaker/breakable and their systems easier to hack into. They use the 
vulnerabilities they created to their own ends.

As of today, Tor appears to provide privacy, at least as far as the 
.onion sites goes. Maybe it even works for it's entire function of 
providing anonymous internet browsing.

'They' would definitely want to be IN this thing, because they either 
want to compromise it, or if that doesn't work well enough, destroy 
it. 'They' are known to infiltrate and be influential in getting what 
they want. Literally, they are professionals at this. 'Getting to 
know' the exit relay operators and identifying their bank accounts 
would help facilitate things when it came time for them to make their 
move.

In the context of September 2013, this whole thing is scary. It was 
perhaps not scary in September of 2012, when we didn't know anything.

Also. It makes me wonder things when, for example, you say "Think 
bigger" while pointing to a couple of potential dollars in someone's 
pocket. Safeguarding the operators of the exit relays is a bigger deal 
than chump change. I'm not making an honest accusation but, to the 
people who are the most vocal in approving of this - you don't work 
for the NSA, right? :)




On Wednesday 18/09/2013 at 6:08 pm, Roger Dingledine  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 08:10:25AM -0400, tor at t-3.net wrote:
>>
>> The Wau Holland Foundation can currently only
>> reimburse via wire transfer.
>>
>> This seems to be end-of-story in terms of who, in the end, is
>> ultimately getting liability/risk, and points to practically no
>> chance at anonymity
>
> Think bigger --

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