[tor-relays] Call for discussion: turning funding into more exit relays

[Andreas Fink]

On 30.07.2012, at 13:03, Moritz Bartl <moritz at torservers.net> wrote:

> On 30.07.2012 12:57, Andreas Fink wrote:
>>> 109 Euro for Gbit in Romania (Voxility/Limehost)
>>> $400 each for Gbit in Budapest and USA (Axigy)*
>>> 300 Euro for 200 Mbps in Sweden
>>> 375 Euro for 200TB (~800 Mbps) in Netherlands (NForce)
>>> 
>> 
>> You have to well differentiate here if you get shared traffic or dedicated one.
> 
> I don't know how they do it, but we get 600-800 Mbps constantly since
> properly configuring the nodes at Limehost. Axigy provides dedicated
> Gbit at that price to us as sponsorship - same for NForce (actually
> their deal is 2x100TB outbound, inbound free).


Then they are giving away bandwidth below cost or you profit of the fact that most of their other customers are not doing anything.


> 
>> In othe rwords if you pay 109€ for 1GBit you are unlikely able  fill that gigabit 95% of the time. 
> 
> See http://voxility1.torservers.net/vnstat_d.png
> and http://voxility1.torservers.net/vnstat.png (pretty constant daily
> pattern)

> 
>> In international wholesale, prices per megabit range from 1€ - 50€ depending 
>> on location.
> 
> That's why we go with ISPs who do a mixed calculation. Say, one in ten
> customers uses the full Gbit.

True but then you are simply using empty capacity of the others which is not guaranteed to you. So if the other customers start pumping your connection speed drops.