[tor-relays] Call for discussion: turning funding into more exit relays

Jacob Appelbaum jacob at appelbaum.net
Thu Jul 26 23:15:01 UTC 2012


Andreas Fink:
> On 26.07.2012, at 19:52, Andrew Lewman <andrew at torproject.is> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:05:53 +0000
>> kupo at damnfbi.tk wrote:
>>> We should probably talk further then since I'm _in_ Iceland atm and 
>>> would also like to see a high capacity node here.
>>> May I ask for your reasoning though? A lot of people on both sides of 
>>> the pond have believed that IMMI <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMMI> 
>>> has been passed here already when it has in fact not (yet). I'm in
>>> touch with those trying to pass it and it comes up for major review
>>> in september. Have you tried talking to DataCell 
>>> <http://www.datacell.com/>? 
>>
>> I talked to Datacell roughly a year ago. They were fine with an exit
>> relay, but at the time were distracted by suing Visa. 
>>
>> The only issue was pure cost. Traffic leaving Iceland costs a lot. I
>> wasn't prepared to spend ISK300,000 per month for a 100 mbps exit relay.
>>
>> Maybe times have changed and traffic from Iceland is not so expensive
>> anymore.
> 
> Traffic from Iceland is still relatively expensive. However we could host some machines in other places where we interconnect on internet exchanges. We are still distracted by suing Visa due to Wikileaks case but that doesn't stop us doing good business.
> 
> I believe we have a couple of users running tor on their VM's. Not sure if exit or not. But the first law enforcement request (identify the owner) was already in (however not in proper format and from the wrong country so we didn't have to answer it anyway. They couldn't even read whois entries correctly or use traceroute to get an idea where the server really is). 
> 

Hi Andreas,

Thanks for continuing to sue Visa and thanks for your support of well,
everything you seem to support.

If we wanted to collectively pool some cash and pay for 100Mb or 1Gb of
bandwidth on a rented machine, specifically as a Tor exit - what would
you want to see from the Tor community in terms of a monthly payment?

All the best,
Jacob


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