Costs of Portable IP Space [was: New Node]

grarpamp grarpamp at gmail.com
Fri Sep 3 08:58:47 UTC 2010


> Let's say everything goes according to plan, and we manage to get an
> IP allocation that allows us to handle abuse directly at a very high
> capacity Tor node, and we use it to run the default policy and send
> the BayTSP and MediaSentry complaints to /dev/null.

The goal of being independant should NOT be so things can be sunk
to /dev/null as a game. While certainly fun, that lacks due diligence
and is unprofessional at worst and would only serve to accelerate/inflame
possible future issues.

Lest it be needed in the future, one should at least determine and
file with each case that:

1) Indeed, due to the nature of services provided, there is no
technical capability to track and or serve the user further.

2) That due to common carrier customaries, the provider having no
mal intent itself, or intent to shield a 'bad' user, and with no
advertisment as to utility of service for users malfeasance... the
complainant's supposed second action against the provider is null.

A responce to a complaint may not be necessary unless there is
further escalated inquiry. And surely the common Tor boiler plate
reply could be sent back as a first reply should that happen.

I am not a lawyer. Hire one.


> Eventually, these organizations realize that their spam is being
> ignored, and report this to their clients: Universal, Viacom, and
> others [...] we win the case [...]
> it would be quite easy for big content to turn right around
> and lobby for [...]

Yes, the goal of being independant has a few reasons:

1) Stay online, instead of being termed by an ISP/colo that has
zero interest in the possible cost of legal, political or media
involvement.  Either as defendant or defender. Their interest is
making money, not losing it. Complaints are a risk to their balance
sheet, even if only in time spent ticketing. Thus you're going to
get termed quite a bit.

2) Allow you to handle all that according to your anononymity and
lawmaking interests, and your interests in keeping your money as
well... from the very first mail/call. Without some third party
provider dancing unpredictably in the middle.

3) Stay online, till it all figures itself out in ten years or so :)



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