[tor] Softlayer finally kicks us from their data center

Andrew Lewis andrew at pdqvpn.com
Mon Dec 6 23:45:36 UTC 2010


Who got kicked off 100tb.com?

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:28 PM, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:

> > On the cost side, Cogent and Hurricane Electric both sell 100 meg in
> > the $400 to $500 range in top tier data centers.  You can easily get
> > Gigabit for $1500 from them (unmetered).
>
> Didn't know Cogent had gone that low yet, thx. HE is more a
> provider of mixed services (colo/host/transit) than traditional
> pipe though.
>
> > But the DMCA notices go to the ARIN contact for the block.  If you
> > just get service, you may not be set as the "owner" (according to
> > ARIN) of the block.
>
> Sure. I guess my mention of being an ISP should have said it was
> for purposes of going naturally alongside direct allocation.
> In a former life, I did send notices to upstream pipe as needed.
> ie: If there was an issue requiring it... traceroute, lookup and mail.
> So even an independant ISP, in their own room, buying circuit from
> L3/etc, could have a ticket lodged at L3. That was also the point about
> structuring. Companies layer and silo things as suits them.
>
> >  I've been ignoring DMCA notices for 10 years
>
> As would many rightly do, laws of other countries don't apply. Business
> seeks to minimize cost, ignoring saves cost with minimal risk.
>
> > Really, though, there's only 86 days of IPv4 allocation left (see HE's
> > status page or gadget).  The time for you to set up a company, get raw
> > bandwidth and speak BGP with your peers is likely come and gone.  TOR
> > needs to think about IPv6.
>
> Yep, I left that part out of my prior note. That's a big problem as far as
> opening up shop as a new ISP. For this or any other purpose. Especially
> if you want to keep it private [held and funded] with organic growth... no
> time left for that. Save for givebacks and if IANA/etc brokers private
> swaps,
> direct v4 allocation simply won't exist, everything will be SWIP.
>
> The v6 net, current OS's, DNS are all ready. A fair number of popular apps,
> certainly opensource ones, do v6. So yes, Tor needs to become v6 capable.
>
> The v4 game may be played out. But given that true global v6 adoption vs
> NAT everywhere has what maybe a 50/50 chance?... early v6 ISP's could
> make a killing. Maybe we'll be among them :)
>
> Oh well, kindof off topic. Cheers.
>
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