[tor-project] Anti-censorship team meeting notes, 2024-10-03

meskio meskio at torproject.org
Thu Oct 3 16:23:40 UTC 2024


Hey everyone!

Here are our meeting logs:

http://meetbot.debian.net/tor-meeting/2024/tor-meeting.2024-10-03-16.00.html

And our meeting pad:

Anti-censorship
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Next meeting: Thursday, October 10 16:00 UTC
Facilitator: onyinyang
^^^(See Facilitator Queue at tail)

Weekly meetings, every Thursday at 16:00 UTC, in #tor-meeting at OFTC
(channel is logged while meetings are in progress)

This week's Facilitator: meskio

== Goal of this meeting ==

Weekly check-in about the status of anti-censorship work at Tor.
Coordinate collaboration between people/teams on anti-censorship at the Tor Project and Tor community.


== Links to Useful documents ==
	* Our anti-censorship roadmap:
		* Roadmap:https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/boards
	* The anti-censorship team's wiki page:
		* https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/wikis/home
	* Past meeting notes can be found at:
		* https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/
	* Tickets that need reviews: from projects, we are working on:
		* All needs review tickets:
			* https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/merge_requests?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=opened&assignee_id=None
		* Project 158 <-- meskio working on it
			* https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/issues/?label_name%5B%5D=Project%20158


== Announcements ==

	* 

== Discussion ==

(Sep 26 New:)
	* probetest delay-before-disconnect to reduce incorrect "restricted" measurements
		* https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/merge_requests/397
		* shelikhoo will deploy next week, maybe Monday 2024-09-30

(Oct 3 New:)
	* Broker installation over at:
		* snowflake-broker-debianupgradestaging-j33r3zahe.torproject.net
		* ready to be tested and then switch to be the primary broker
		* ./proxy -nat-probe-server https://snowflake-broker-debianupgradestaging-j33r3zahe.torproject.net:8443/probe -broker https://snowflake-broker-debianupgradestaging-j33r3zahe.torproject.net/  -verbose  
		* https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40349#note_3026336

== Actions ==

== Interesting links ==
	Notes from our circle on signalling channel at the Global Gathering are posted:
		- https://pad.riseup.net/p/GG-2024-Day2-Village1b

== Reading group ==
	* We will discuss "" on 
		* 
		* Questions to ask and goals to have:
			* What aspects of the paper are questionable?
			* Are there immediate actions we can take based on this work?
			* Are there long-term actions we can take based on this work?
			* Is there future work that we want to call out in hopes that others will pick it up?


== Updates ==
Name:
		This week:
			- What you worked on this week.
		Next week:
			- What you are planning to work on next week.
		Help with:
			- Something you need help with.

cecylia (cohosh): 2024-09-26
	Last week:
	    - worked with meek bridge operator to update domain names
	    - dove into family support for bridges (tor#40935)
	    - TROVE-2024-012
	    - merged and then unmerged kcp library update
	This week:
	    - take a look at WofWca's big changes to snowflake
	    - finish snowflake dependency upgrades that were causing problems
	    - take a look at snowflake web and webext translations and best practices
	    - make changes to Lox encrypted bridge table
	        - https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/lox/-/merge_requests/147

dcf: 2024-10-03
	Last week:
		- more review of snowflake webextension Manifest V3 running in background https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake-webext/-/merge_requests/83#note_3084373
		- commented installation procedure for replacement snowflake broker https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40349#note_3084507
		- snowflake azure CDN bookkeeping https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/wikis/Snowflake-costs/diff?version_id=7ab51a375c35631ce7dfec123fd3c4c4d59d3eb6
	Next week:
		- open issue to have snowflake-client log whenever KCPInErrors is nonzero https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40262#note_2886018
			- parent: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40267
		- open issue to disable /debug endpoint on snowflake broker
Help with:
		- tell me when to restart the brokers for https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40349

meskio: 2023-10-03
    Last week:
        - Travel to the Global Gathering
    Next week:
        - investigate if bridges are still jumping distributors (rdsys#232)
        - plan the work on snowflake proxy packaging


Shelikhoo: 2024-10-03
    Last Week:
         - snowflake broker update/reinstall(cont.):
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40349#note_3026336
         - Unreliable+unordered WebRTC data channel transport for Snowflake rev2 (cont.)( https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/merge_requests/315 ) improvements
            - Merge request reviews
    Next Week/TODO:
        - Merge request reviews
         - Unreliable+unordered WebRTC data channel transport for Snowflake rev2 (cont.) ( https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/merge_requests/315 ) improvements
         - Work on finishing snowflake container release

onyinyang: 2023-10-03
	Last week(s):
		- Global Gathering
	Next week:
		- continue troll-patrol integration for Lox bridge blockage detection
		- update lox protocols to return duplicate responses for an already seen request 
		- Work on outstanding milestone issues: 
			in particular: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/lox/-/issues/69
			- key rotation automation
		
		Later:
		pending decision on abandoning lox wasm in favour of some kind of FFI? https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/43096):
			- add pref to handle timing for pubkey checks in Tor browser 
			- add trusted invitation logic to tor browser integration:
			https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/42974
		- improve metrics collection/think about how to show Lox is working/valuable
		- sketch out Lox blog post/usage notes for forum
		
	(long term things were discussed at the meeting!): 
		- brainstorming grouping strategies for Lox buckets (of bridges) and gathering context on how types of bridges are distributed/use in practice
			Question: What makes a bridge usable for a given user, and how can we encode that to best ensure we're getting the most appropriate resources to people?
				1. Are there some obvious grouping strategies that we can already consider?
					e.g., by PT, by bandwidth (lower bandwidth bridges sacrificed to open-invitation buckets?), by locale (to be matched with a requesting user's geoip or something?)
				2. Does it make sense to group 3 bridges/bucket, so trusted users have access to 3 bridges (and untrusted users have access to 1)? More? Less?
		
theodorsm: 2024-09-12
		Last weeks:
			-
		Next weeks:
			- Update Snowflake to use latest pion upstream releases, waiting for WebRTC v4 beta.
			- Test Snowflake fork with covert-dtls
			- Condensing thesis into paper
		Help with:
			- Feedback on thesis
			
			

Facilitator Queue:
		onyinyang shelikhoo meskio
1. First available staff in the Facilitator Queue will be the facilitator for the meeting
2. After facilitating the meeting, the facilitator will be moved to the tail of the queue

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