[tor-dev] Agnostic Tools: Code Dev and Support For

[nullius]

(I began writing this earlier, but returned (-1) with ENOTIME.)

On 2018-01-11 at 22:44:56 +0000, teor <teor2345 at gmail.com> wrote:
>This thread is off-topic,

I know.  But for understandable reasons, as stated below; and with all 
due apologies for a “-dev” list:

>On 2018-01-11 20:00:45 at +0000, nullius <nullius at nym.zone> wrote:
>>#endif /* !_ON_TOPIC_FOR_DEV_LIST_ */

teor:
>and unwelcoming to new contributors.

0. I disagree in principle with the “welcoming environment” notion; but 
that’s hereto irrelevant, for nothing an ordinary reasonable person 
would deem “unwelcoming” was said on this thread.

1. It’s an awful trick, soliciting contributions for a project which is 
ideological in nature—and then expecting people to avoid speaking out 
for their motivating ideological passions, when those are entwined with 
the context of a technical discussion.  Some might even consider that 
unwelcoming to potential (quasi-)new contributors, such as myself.

2. I didn’t state any sort of personalized invective; and I certainly 
didn’t read grarpamp’s post that way, either.  For my part, to the 
contrary, I stated constructive criticisms and counterarguments as to an 
abstract opinion.  That was more than warranted, given Tor’s stated 
mission—and whereas “Beastr0” had expressed reasonable open-mindedness, 
as I fairly quoted (“(though I am willing to be convinced otherwise)”).  
I also thought that “Beastr0” replied to me quite reasonably:

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-January/012802.html

On 2018-01-11 at 22:41:26 +0000, Beastr0 <beastr0 at protonmail.com> wrote:
>Some interesting points, guys, thank you for sending them. Perhaps I 
>will change my opinion one day and if I do I'm sure some of your 
>thoughts on the subject will contribute to that.
>Best,
>
>- Bstro

“Beastr0”, you’re welcome—and thanks for thinking it over!  Given my 
aforestated “motivating ideological passions” about the right to 
anonymous publication, that little note made my day.

If anything I said in this thread could potentially help bring someone 
out there to reconsider and perhaps support .onion in the future, then I 
would call that a happy ending all-around.

>Please stop.

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