[tor-dev] Two TOR questions

[Ken Keys]

On 3/10/2015 9:20 PM, iratemonkey wrote:
> I only have time to reply back to your reply on part 3 tonight, but it
> is not a 'bug', this seems to be done on purpose.
>
>
>
> > 3) Why is the little orion icon missing in TOR 4.0.4 bundle for
> Windows? Now
> > Tor bundle looks exactly the same as regular Firefox and Firefox GUI
> looks
> > like Chrome. There is very little visual differentiation left and
> this is a
> > bit of a concern that I might accidentally cross containmenate.
>
>
>
> So, I really meant, in the system tray (assuming this is Windows),
> that little Onion router icon (the one that turns yellow, green) is
> gone....
>
I think the icon you are referring to is actually part of Vidalia. It's
removal from TBB has been lamented by many because it had a lot of nice
features that are now missing from the bundle. There is a stand alone
version of Vidalia that, for now, gets back much of the missing
functionality.

> Since the early versions of TOR ( I still use this one I customized
> back in 2010 - five years ago :
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/securitytor/ )
>
> Since the early versions of TOR, each new version has been from the
> interface/UI standpoint more and more dumped down... almost like way
> of the Windows 8 "metro" interface, flat design tiles, the whole world
> moving to cloud first, mobile first, and all that good stuff...
>
The goodness of that stuff is open to debate.

> Firefox has started copying Google's Chrome with the massive
> iteration/upgrade numerical versioning inflation counts, and
> installing a maintenence as a service forcing and deepthroating
> everyone to immediately upgrade upgrade upgrade...
>
> Problem is this, now Firefox has gone like full on google, Ads in the
> browser itself all about monetization, etc....
>
> This is why for non-Tor use, I'm sticking with Firefox 28.0 and will
> never move to the newer ad infested versions and the change of
> interface GUI that looks almost identical to Chrome.
>
> it is many steps backwards in my opinion....
>
> And the dumbing down of TOR, at least from the UI/interface
> perspective is not good.
> Sure I'll still use slax/tails, but Tor bundle for Windows by default
> is getting worse and worse.
>  prime example, why the heck is noscript turned off by default on TOR,
> and flash/silverlight/javascript not even blocked?
>
I also wish the TBB developers had enough respect for the users to let
them use the product as they see fit.


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