[tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators
Karsten Loesing
karsten at torproject.org
Tue Jun 10 08:19:21 UTC 2014
[Attempting to move this discussion to tor-dev@ to avoid cross-posting;
assuming my Reply-To: header won't get eaten by Mailman..]
On 10/06/14 02:26, Virgil Griffith wrote:
> For a while I've been seeking to grow the Tor network in both size and
> goodput. Towards this end, I've explored various avenues such as
> increasing user-awareness via tor2web. More recently, I've been exploring
> financial incentives like TorCoin.
>
> Not wanting to strictly limit ourselves to financial incentives, I began
> reading the literature on incentivizing volunteers. The most relevant
> papers I found are:
>
> * http://www-2.rotman.utoronto.ca/facbios/file/LMS2_ManSci-Paper-Final.pdf
> * http://pareto.uab.es/~prey/gneezy_254.pdf
> * https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3308162/Slonim%202013.pdf
(The last link is a 404.)
> The most relevant of these papers (Lacetera 2013) cites the major
> motivations for volunteer labor are: "pure altruism, warm glow, self-image,
> and reputation". Upon reading this I realized TorCoin's technical
> interestingness had blinded me to much easier to leverage motivations of
> "warm glow" and "reputation".
>
> I propose the following system for harnessing "warm glow" and "reputation"
> for Tor relay operators. I am willing to fund this in its entirety.
>
> I propose establishing a subdomain on torproject.org giving each Tor relay
> operator (hereafter affectionately called "Torati") his/her own page using
> the information her machines provide to the Tor Directory Consensus. The
> fields to show on her "Torati profile page" would be things like:
> ContactInfo, PGP fingerprint, list of server nicknames, date the Directory
> Authorities first saw her contact info, etc. You can also imagine a
> receiving special "special recognition stars" for operating an exit or
> bridge node. Moreover, some bandwidth measurement like EigenSpeed or
> TorCoin gain traction, the Torati page could recognize contributors with by
> listing the sum total she has relayed to the Tor network.
>
> Naturally a node can opt-out of Torati recognition by setting a parameter
> in the torrc file.
>
> I argue this would be a cheap and easy way to motivate operators to
> volunteer more bandwidth for the Tor network. As mentioned before, I am
> willing to fund this in its entirety.
Hi Virgil,
adding more/better incentives for people to run relays and bridges
sounds like a great plan!
What you describe sounds related to what I suggested last December on
this list:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2013-December/005948.html
> 9. Provide relay comparison metrics in Onionoo. We could define some
> simple metrics on the usefulness of a relay, like provided bandwidth or
> uptime, in comparison to other relays. A possible statement from these
> metrics could be: "your relay provides more bandwidth than 95% of relays
> in the network." Similar to 8. If Atlas [6] or Globe [8] or a
> yet-to-be-written Facebook application or a also-yet-to-be-written
> Twitter integration into Tor Weather (#10372) tell the world how
> successful someone's running Tor relays, maybe that encourages others to
> run relays, too. We could even invent a points system for running
> relays, with additional points for running exits, if that makes the Tor
> network better. Probably needs input from a community coordinator
> person. (Orange part in the diagram.)
>
> [6] https://atlas.torproject.org/
> [8] https://globe.torproject.org/
Want to take a look at Onionoo and see whether it already provides the
information and functionality you need, and if not, open tickets for the
missing pieces?
https://onionoo.torproject.org/
But let me also give you some quick feedback on your proposal:
- Why not make it entirely opt-in? We could include a subscription
link in Weather's welcome messages that relay operators receive when
their relay first receives the Stable flag.
- Where does the name "Torati" originate from?
All the best,
Karsten
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