[tor-dev] The Torouter and the DreamPlug

[Jacob Appelbaum]

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Runa A. Sandvik <runa.sandvik at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Runa A. Sandvik <
> runa.sandvik at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> DreamPlug is a new plug computer from GlobalScale Technologies:
> >> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-5-dreamplugs.aspx. The spec
> >> looks good, it runs Ubuntu by default and it doesn't cost too much. I
> >> thought that the DreamPlug was going to be very user friendly and a
> >> potential candidate for the Torouter project. (Maybe) I was wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >> When the SheevaPlug came out a couple of years ago, it shipped with a
> >> web interface that enabled users to change various network options. I
> >> thought the DreamPlug would ship with some kind of interface as well
> >> (and my plan was to just plug in a Tor page). This is not the case; it
> >> ships with lighthttpd by default and displays a static and very simple
> >> placeholder page on 192.168.1.1.
> >
> > That's great news. A complex web app is just a giant PITA and huge attack
> > surface anyhow.
>
> Yeah, that's true.
>
> >> If we want to use the DreamPlug for the Torouter, we will have to
> >> write a web interface for easy configuration of Tor. The interface
> >> should probably also provide options to better secure the DreamPlug.
> >> Downloading and installing Tor isn't a problem, but the configuration
> >> side of things can be tricky for users who aren't used to the command
> >> line.
> >
> > Or perhaps we can just turn Tor on by default, ship tor-fw-helper and
> write
> > a basic status of Tor out to a static html file?
>
> Users who aren't familiar with the command line will probably still
> have a problem configuring Tor. I think that a webui package in
> Debian/Ubuntu is the best way to go.
>
>
Why would they have to configure anything on our router? They just need to
open a port or let it happen automatically, right?


> >>
> >> Thoughts? Comments?
> >>
> >
> > The Freedombox will likely run on the dream plug, it's the reference
> > platform. I think we should work on ensuring that if we ship a dream
> plug,
> > we ship a freedombox pre-configured to run Tor - this will likely be the
> > case with the FB anyway:
> > http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox
> > Basically Tor needs some kind of webui package in Debian and we'd be good
> to
> > go.
>
> Yep, sounds good.
>
> --
> Runa A. Sandvik
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