[ooni-talk] Specifying the term "vendor" on OONI Explorer

[Anatol]

Hi,

Thanks for everyones input. I find 'middle boxes' to be a good
alternative, maybe supported with a 'blocking'-icon or some color code,
explained on either a linked glossary page or something like a tooltip.

Generally I have to agree with Dimitri, some of the terminology used in
ooniprobe can be a bit abstract in it's technical specificity, having a
resource to find some explanatory information could be practical.

a


On 07/06/17 06:32, Dimitri wrote:
> Hi, I am new and I do not understand 'vendor' applicably to the internet. I assumed it could be ISP but there is no 'vendor' in Wikipedia article about ISPs. Closed I can think of is Transit ISPs but technically it is not always is. From a consumer point of view that would a 'wholesale internet provider' or 'wholesale ISP'.
>
> Regards
> Dimitri
>
> If you want target normal people, not just nerds, there are few words they are understand: 
> 1.	Blocking (instead of connectivity), explanation – they are blocking access to some sites. 
> 2.	Spying (instead of a middle box), explanation – someone (your ISP may collect all or some of your activity on the internet.
> 3.	Speed test
> Ommit long names such as ‘HHTP header manipulation’ and . You can link Explanation and Solution to this problem relevant.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ooni-talk [mailto:ooni-talk-bounces at lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Arturo Filastò
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>
> On 05/06/2017 12:43 -0400, Vasilis wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Anatol:
>>> I would like to discuss wether the vagueness of the term 'vendor' on 
>>> http://explorer.ooni.torproject.org/ is potentially taking some 
>>> impact from understanding OONIs test results for new users. I 
>>> personally recall thinking it meant something like "vendors of internet infrastructure"
>>> the first time I visited the explorer, and the only place to figure 
>>> it out is in one of the boxes in /highlights/.
>>>
>>> I'm not entirely sure what an appropriate specification should look 
>>> like, I guess it's a balance between correct definition and 
>>> convenience in length - with a focus on the first my proposal would 
>>> be "vendors of [potentially] traffic manipulating software" - but 
>>> that's so long it will probably break the design of the front page. 
>>> Maybe if someone knows a shorter, appropriate synonym for 
>>> "[potentially] traffic manipulating software" ?
>> Bringing this up perhaps some candidates (note if they are too long):
>> - network traffic manipulation software/hardware
>> - netwrok traffic manipulation device
>>
> Maybe for consistency also with the rest of OONI software, we may as well just call them "middle boxes" and maybe cross link it with a longer explanation of what it is exactly.
>
> ~ A.
>
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