[network-health] More details about bad-relay proposal

[Georg Koppen]

Hi!

Garún via network-health:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> yesterday during the State of the Onion stream, Georg mentioned a proposal that considers the implementation of a relay trust factor in order to prevent malicious operators from getting the bandwidth they want.
> I wanted to ask if there are any sources I can read into for more details about this? Or if more information could be provided on the proposal? It sounds a bit like this is going into the direction of nusenu's web of trust [1].

First of all, "proposal" in my talk was not meant in the sense of a 
technical spec like nusenu's proposal. If you, e.g. watched a bit 
further along and saw Mike's talk then you probably recall hearing him 
talk about a proposal as well where several network security related 
topics should get addressed with. That's the same proposal, which is 
essentially a paper written for a potential funder in the hope they find 
it great and will pay us for working on that. If all goes well then 
we'll have indeed money from that funder for all of the work I mentioned 
in this email (including the bad-relays part) at the end of next year 
(as Mike said).

I think nusenu and we want to solve the same problem. However, I am not 
sure yet about their approach. I've been going over their proposal and 
asking questions/clarifications on the tor-relays@ mailing list where I 
think such a proposal should get discussed. You can follow the 
discussion along (and chime in! :)) there, where I mentioned and 
clarified parts we currently think about working on, too. I am not done 
with that yet, though. But I currently don't have time to work on that 
during my regular working hours. Instead, I put my volunteer hat on on 
weekends, which makes the whole process slower...

That said the links nusenu mentioned in the mail starting the proposal 
thread[1] are worth checking out to get up to speed on the general 
situation and on ideas floating around to make progress on the bad-relay 
issue.

Hope this helps,
Georg

[1] 
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2021-October/019854.html

> Garún
> 
> [1] https://nusenu.github.io/tor-relay-operator-ids-trust-information/
> 
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