[metrics-team] Hello from blackbird
Su Yu
graylatern at gmail.com
Fri Feb 22 22:05:28 UTC 2019
No worries. It works now!
I did some quick plotting in Jupyter notebook (see below; the figures are
also attached separately). Regarding the relays vs. bridges question that
you mentioned, it seems the bridges are better at keeping themselves not
*too* outdated, but they're actually not that different in keeping
up-to-date?
It would also be interesting to look at the regional data, etc.
blackbird
Karsten Loesing <karsten at torproject.org> 于2019年2月22日周五 下午2:08写道：
> On 2019-02-22 19:10, Su Yu wrote:
> > Sure - sorry, I forgot to do "reply all".
>
> No worries!
>
> > Thank you for sending me the data and code! Could you let me know what
> > encoding it is for the csv? I got encoding error and could not read it
> > using Python or my Mac..
>
> Gah, I compressed the file using xz and somehow included the wrong link.
> In fact, I'm surprised the link I gave you even worked, probably some
> Apache magic at play. You can either rename the file to
> recommended.csv.xz or download it using the correct link:
>
> https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/recommended.csv.xz
>
> Hope this works better. Sorry for the confusion!
>
> All the best,
> Karsten
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > blackbird
> >
> > Karsten Loesing <karsten at torproject.org <mailto:karsten at torproject.org>>
> > 于2019年2月21日周四 下午4:14写道：
> >
> > Hi blackbird,
> >
> > I'm adding the mailing list back, so that others in the team (or
> whoever
> > else is subscribed) can share their thoughts on this.
> >
> > I just looked at my code, and I think I should clean that up a little
> > bit before making it available. It might not be as useful for you in
> its
> > current form.
> >
> > What I can share at this point is the .csv file and the R code to
> plot
> > the graph I shared earlier:
> >
> > https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/recommended.csv
> >
> >
> https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/recommended-2019-02-02.R
> >
> > Maybe you have ideas for visualizing this data in a more useful way.
> >
> > Of course, this data doesn't help with going deeper into the
> questions I
> > mentioned in my earlier reply. I could either clean up my code or
> > provide you with more detailed data if you tell me what you need.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Karsten
> >
> >
> > On 2019-02-21 18:38, Su Yu wrote:
> > > Hi Karsten,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply! Yes, this is definitely an interesting
> topic. I
> > > am happy to look at the data and code, and see what can be done
> > from there.
> > >
> > > blackbird
> > >
> > > Karsten Loesing <karsten at torproject.org
> > <mailto:karsten at torproject.org> <mailto:karsten at torproject.org
> > <mailto:karsten at torproject.org>>>
> > > 于2019年2月21日周四 上午10:55写道：
> > >
> > > On 2019-02-21 03:37, Su Yu wrote:
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Hello blackbird,
> > >
> > > > My name is Elise (usually known online as “blackbird”(lower
> > > case)). I have been interested in working with Tor for some
> time;
> > > recently I met Alison in an event, and she kindly directed me
> > here.
> > >
> > > Glad to meet you here!
> > >
> > > > A little about my background: I am a PhD student doing some
> data
> > > mining/machine learning-related work. My specializations are
> > mainly
> > > in deep learning, network analysis, and data visualization. I
> > write
> > > Python, know a little Java and R, and some misc languages. I
> would
> > > be most interested in doing some measurement of the Tor
> network’s
> > > structure, if possible.
> > >
> > > I might have something. I started an analysis of tor software
> > versions
> > > in the Tor network three weeks ago, but I can't seem to find
> > the time to
> > > dig deeper into it.
> > >
> > > I wonder if you'd like to pick this up, see if you can find
> > interesting
> > > insights in the data, make some fine graphs, and tell us what
> > you found?
> > >
> > > Here's what I produced so far:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://people.torproject.org/~karsten/volatile/recommended-2019-02-02.pdf
> > >
> > > This graphs shows how quickly relays and bridges in the Tor
> > network
> > > update their tor software versions. It shows this for the
> entire
> > > network.
> > >
> > > Maybe there are parts of the Tor network that update their tor
> > software
> > > versions faster? The bridges that are hard-coded in Tor
> > Browser come to
> > > mind, as do the directory authorities and fallback directories
> > shipped
> > > with the tor software. Maybe relays on some operating systems
> > update
> > > their version faster than on others? Some countries earlier
> > than others?
> > > Home-run relays on dynamic IP addresses differently from those
> > run in
> > > data centers?
> > >
> > > There might be others on this list with more questions on this
> > topic,
> > > all of which we cannot answer yet, because we didn't do a
> thorough
> > > analysis yet.
> > >
> > > I can provide you with data and code that I used for this
> initial
> > > analysis.
> > >
> > > > It is great meeting you, and I look forward to learning more
> > about
> > > the team!
> > >
> > > Curious whether you'll find this interesting!
> > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > blackbird
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > > Karsten
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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