[metrics-team] Next IRC meeting happens on Thursday, August 11, 2016, 14:00 UTC in #tor-dev

Thu Aug 11 14:57:56 UTC 2016

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On 08/10/2016 12:10 PM, Karsten Loesing wrote:
> Hello team,

Hello all!

> 
> this is an announcement/reminder that the next IRC meeting of the
> Metrics Team is scheduled for
> 
>   Thursday, August 11, 2016, 14:00 UTC in #tor-dev
> 

Here's the "manual" Meeting Minutes as I forgot to start the MeetBot.

Kind regards,
iwakeh

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Manual meeting log 2016-08-11:

<iwakeh> hi anathema!
<iwakeh> hi karsten!
<anathema_db> hi iwakeh!
<iwakeh> the pad as usual https://pad.riseup.net/p/zUNzEIFRq5S4
* Samdney is lurking and wants to join the team ;)
<iwakeh> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/metrics-team/2016-August/000200.html
<iwakeh> Karsten cannot make it.
<iwakeh> So, who is here for the Metrics-team meeting?
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<anathema_db> myself
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<iwakeh> Fine. Any topics to discuss?
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<iwakeh> Shall I start * CollecTor 1.0.0 (iwakeh)
* Samdney will lurk and watch
<iwakeh> sure. 
<anathema_db> yeah I just added one
<iwakeh> ok.
<anathema_db> let's start
<iwakeh> * CollecTor 1.0.0 (iwakeh)
<iwakeh> well, we're busy releasing the very first CollecTor release.
<iwakeh> Things are going fine.
* iwakeh looking for the ticket
<iwakeh> #19813
-zwiebelbot/#tor-dev- tor#19813: define release process and do release of milestone 1.0.0 - https://bugs.torproject.org/19813
<anathema_db> cool!
<anathema_db> so we'll hit the release date, right ?
<iwakeh> There'll be a list announcement, when it's done.
<anathema_db> great
<iwakeh> Yes :-)
<iwakeh> Next topic?
<anathema_db> sure
<iwakeh> * onionoo-ng (anathema)
<anathema_db> so
<isabela> nickm: following up on freeze date - you think mid oct should be fine? can i move on and let peole know
<anathema_db> the last emails were pretty clear about what should needs to be done
<nickm> I think so; but I can say something more definite in a few hours
<iwakeh> You mean the mailing list ones?
<anathema_db> I only have that question left about the paging
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<anathema_db> yes
<iwakeh> ok.
<anathema_db> my last email
<anathema_db> can you give me any hint?
* iwakeh looking for the thread.
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<anathema_db> ahah
<iwakeh> this one
<iwakeh> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/metrics-team/2016-August/000199.html
<anathema_db> yes!
<iwakeh> it's a long mail
<iwakeh> could you give a paragraph number to speed my reading up?
<isabela> nickm: thanks
<anathema_db> it's all quoting :P
<anathema_db> sure, first paragraph
<anathema_db> I'm not copypasting here to avoid flooding the chan
<iwakeh> that's fine
<iwakeh> I don't know
<iwakeh> exactly but
<iwakeh> it looks like a misunderstanding?
<anathema_db> ?
<anathema_db> the offset&limit thing ?
<anathema_db> no well, it seems like it works differently and I'd like to know how and why so I can make onionoo-ng backward-compatible
<iwakeh> Well, I would
<anathema_db> however, since it's a long email, I'd say that's better start discussing in ML
<iwakeh> just take the "real Onionoo as reference
<anathema_db> yeah sure, that's what I'm doing
<iwakeh> and let it answer the question. Then
<nickm> asn: ht.h now has a quick how-to document in it.  See #19896. I need to do other stuff now though :)
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-zwiebelbot/#tor-dev- tor#19896: Write a quick how-to for ht.h - https://bugs.torproject.org/19896
<iwakeh> you have an example URL to work from?
<anathema_db> but that's a limit case I cannot test in the current implementation (I guess)
<anathema_db> iwakeh: sorry ?
<iwakeh> Retrieve all and change the offset.
<iwakeh> then you see what happens.
<iwakeh> Another place to look is the code, of course.
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<anathema_db> yeah but java is not my strong suit and I'm not easily able to follow it
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<iwakeh> hmm, /me thinking
<iwakeh> Well, just use https://onionoo.torproject.org/summary?limit=4
<anathema_db> however, I guess an example would be https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?type=bridge&offset=10000
<iwakeh> ... well I didn't check.
<iwakeh> but trying the existing instance
<iwakeh> is one way to get to know
<iwakeh> the protocol, I think.
<iwakeh> And, then it'll be easier asking questions with that data.
<anathema_db> sure, that's what I'm doing
<anathema_db> plus, testing with the URL I posted here, it seems to be working as expected (and as I implemented it) so not sure what karsten was referring to in the email
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<iwakeh> Maybe, just ask about that single topic again?
<iwakeh> I cannot infer what was meant. 
<iwakeh> when 
<iwakeh> your protocol implementation servers
<iwakeh> I mean serves
<anathema_db> yeah I'll wait for his reply and then we'll see :)
<iwakeh> the same
<iwakeh> ok :-)
<iwakeh> And maybe
<iwakeh> give a short example in the mail not only the url.
<anathema_db> I will, thanks
<iwakeh> you're welcome 
<anathema_db> I still need to fit into the team's way of doing :)
<iwakeh> In what way?
<anathema_db> like, keeping email short for example :P
<iwakeh> yes, that's definitly true :-)
<iwakeh> Write one mail for one question and
<anathema_db> provide more data and less "words" (even because my english is kind-a broken so there may be various misunderstanding)
<iwakeh> your english is fine.
<anathema_db> thanks
<iwakeh> shorter mails are easier read 
<iwakeh> and quicker replied to.
<anathema_db> yeah I will
<iwakeh> Are there more topics?
<anathema_db> so, just last stuff about onionoo-ng
<iwakeh> sure.
<anathema_db> I've implemented the Summary document
<anathema_db> everything is fine, just I have a question
<iwakeh> ok.
<anathema_db> if we look at the "a" field
<anathema_db> we have something like this (when IPv6 is present)
<anathema_db> "a":["5.9.227.107","[2a01:4f8:160:1491::2]"]
<anathema_db> see the extra "[]" ?
<iwakeh> yes, i see.
<anathema_db> now, my understanding is that those are used in the Details document to separate the IPv6 address from the port number
<anathema_db> "[2a01:4f8:160:1491::2]":9000
<anathema_db> but for the Summary doc, that isn't needed
<anathema_db> so I was wondering if that could be a put as a protocol improvement
<iwakeh> From my point of view 
<iwakeh> that needs investigation.
<anathema_db> and I was wondering if we want to start setting up a page that gathers all the new things we wanna see in the new Onionoo protocol (3.2)
<iwakeh> Oh, actually it might be quite helpful
<iwakeh> to
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<iwakeh> start single tickets in trac about the things you found.
<iwakeh> So, one for this ip6 bracket topic, for example.
<iwakeh> and different ones for other things you noticed.
<iwakeh> It's the way of discussing these things.
<iwakeh> does that make sense?
<anathema_db> oh yeah
<iwakeh> ok, then get your account in trac ;-)
<anathema_db> I'm not a trac user so I may do some mistakes
<anathema_db> I'm not a trac fan
<iwakeh> oh, there is
<anathema_db> but I'll learn , I promise!
<iwakeh> hardly anything you can break.
<iwakeh> ;-)
<anathema_db> :)
<iwakeh> Maybe, your not liking trac keeps the descriptions short ;-)
<anathema_db> is there a queue for onionoo-related stuff ?
<anathema_db> ahah don't bet on that :P
<iwakeh> You can choose Metrics and then Onionoo.
<anathema_db> cool, thanks
<iwakeh> as component.
<iwakeh> It will
<iwakeh> be changed in case you chose something wrong. don't worry about mistakes.
<anathema_db> k
<iwakeh> fine.
<iwakeh> Done, back to coding?
<anathema_db> hurray!
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<iwakeh> :-)
<iwakeh> thanks, anathema.
<iwakeh> bye, bye.
<anathema_db> thanks iwakeh
<anathema_db> bye bye
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<anathema_db> and thanks to Samdney to attend the meeting :)
<iwakeh> sure
<anathema_db> lol
<anathema_db> did you stop the recording ?
<iwakeh> yes, b/c I never started 
<anathema_db> the chatbot
<anathema_db> ahah
<iwakeh> right
<Samdney> anathema_db: oh, thx, too
<iwakeh> I'll copy the log, is that ok?
<anathema_db> ok for me
<iwakeh> Did it help you, Samdney?
<iwakeh> To get to know the team a littly?
<iwakeh> little :-)
<Samdney> for the beginning, to see what's going on at the moment, yes ;)
<iwakeh> type to you next week then,
<iwakeh> bye.
<anathema_db> trac is a better overview of what's going on in the team
<anathema_db> bye iwakeh
<anathema_db> enjoy
<Samdney> bye
<anathema_db> I'm going as well
<anathema_db> see you next week folks

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